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<blockquote data-quote="Theroc" data-source="post: 4978976" data-attributes="member: 83115">False.&nbsp; The Wizard STILL cannot effectively wield a sword, or successfully break objects without the aid of his magic(which is substituting his forte with his weakpoint, not directly avoiding it.).Again, no.Mechanically the melee fighter still suffers from low initiative, poor ranged ability(if they are fighting an aerial foe, he still needs a method to contribute, whether he focuses on it or not, generally.), and a low touch AC.&nbsp; How precisely does this &quot;avoid most of the drawbacks&quot;?That depends how they are doing it?&nbsp; Are they avoiding interaction with NPC's and avoiding attempting to use animal handling and avoiding casting sorcerer spells and avoiding turning attempts?&nbsp; If so, then no, it is not cheating.If they are interacting with NPC's and expecting to be loved and well-liked and become angry when the DM determines that this is not the case(usually by means of a die roll), then they are attempting to cheat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Theroc, post: 4978976, member: 83115"] False. The Wizard STILL cannot effectively wield a sword, or successfully break objects without the aid of his magic(which is substituting his forte with his weakpoint, not directly avoiding it.). Again, no. Mechanically the melee fighter still suffers from low initiative, poor ranged ability(if they are fighting an aerial foe, he still needs a method to contribute, whether he focuses on it or not, generally.), and a low touch AC. How precisely does this "avoid most of the drawbacks"? That depends how they are doing it? Are they avoiding interaction with NPC's and avoiding attempting to use animal handling and avoiding casting sorcerer spells and avoiding turning attempts? If so, then no, it is not cheating. If they are interacting with NPC's and expecting to be loved and well-liked and become angry when the DM determines that this is not the case(usually by means of a die roll), then they are attempting to cheat. [/QUOTE]

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