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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 7423043" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya!Well, [MENTION=6845966]ShorelessSkies[/MENTION], what I would do with Pathfinder if I was "new" to it, would be to distill it down to it's absolute bare minimums in terms of "modifiers during game". What I mean is rather than go to some specific section and spending 10 minutes reading the rules that tells you how to handle, say, Missile Fire while riding downhill on a horse...just make a quick simple ruling like "Ok, I'm sure there is more to it, but lets go with -2 to hit for now. Minus one for being on a moving animal and another minus one for going downhill or otherwise changing elevation". Don't worry about all the "little details". There are FAR too many of them in PF...and yes, this includes character options/choices.A good rule of thumb is "If you can't find it in 20 seconds, ignore it or make a quick ruling". After the game, everyone can review the rules that would have been used. Eventually everyone will know a little bit about everything, and a lot about whatever their character "does" often. Pathfinder is a rather cumbersome game, at least in terms of potential rules and "stuff" to use. But, if everyone understands that as part of the game session, everyone should have fun. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I know that when I DM'ed PF, I had a lot of fun...but then again, I did keep it to "core only...plus Advanced Players Guide on an as-needed basis" (e.g., I pretty much ignored 99% of the extra books you could buy).So...enjoy the complexity of PF. Embrace it. Make notes about where to find stuff, or what situations you can dream up for your players that will make use of those rules...the complexity of the rules in PF is half the fun, after all. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />If/when you all get "rule-minutia fatigue", then switch over to 5th Edition. You'll find the "rulings, not rules" and the simpler system a breath of fresh air. Hell, even your optimizer's will likely appreciate the break! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

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