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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2473267" data-attributes="member: 29252">Ah, but here's the thing - he only needs a single level in either Bard or Sorceror to qualify - the rest can be ... Barbarian, say (Note that pretty much any class will work in place of the barbarian levels; if you have something that requires you be lawful, take Sorceror, instead, and put it earlier on in the progression):Barbarian 4/Bard 1/Dragon Disciple X18 Dex, 18 Str, 15 Con, 13 Cha, 12 Int, 10 Wis, floating +1 at 4th into ConAt first, put your Bonus Language into Draconic, put one cross-class skill point into Knoweledge(Arcana), with the Bard level, put all 7 skill points into Knoweledge(Arcana) (taken as a class skill) and you will then meet all the pre-req's at 5th and ready to take DD at 6th. The Natural Armour increases help make up for the Barbarian's lack of armour, the rage synergizes nicely with the DD's strength boosts, and the natural attacks (Dragon Disciple 2) deal with the whole sunder/disarm issue. Barbarian/Bard or Ranger/Bard work well for a damage dealer build; Fighter/Bard, Sorceror/Paladin (can't take Paladin/Bard....), or Cleric/Bard work well for tank builds (for heavy armor proficiency).You could also replace the Bard level with a Sorceror level in any of the above, but then you would need to take the Sorceror level earlier, as a Sorceror doesn't get as many skill points as the bard for quickly filling out those needed Knoweledge(Arcane) ranks (although some of the options have Knoweledge(Arcane) as class skills for all classes, and can take either anywhere).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 2473267, member: 29252"] Ah, but here's the thing - he only needs a single level in either Bard or Sorceror to qualify - the rest can be ... Barbarian, say (Note that pretty much any class will work in place of the barbarian levels; if you have something that requires you be lawful, take Sorceror, instead, and put it earlier on in the progression): Barbarian 4/Bard 1/Dragon Disciple X 18 Dex, 18 Str, 15 Con, 13 Cha, 12 Int, 10 Wis, floating +1 at 4th into Con At first, put your Bonus Language into Draconic, put one cross-class skill point into Knoweledge(Arcana), with the Bard level, put all 7 skill points into Knoweledge(Arcana) (taken as a class skill) and you will then meet all the pre-req's at 5th and ready to take DD at 6th. The Natural Armour increases help make up for the Barbarian's lack of armour, the rage synergizes nicely with the DD's strength boosts, and the natural attacks (Dragon Disciple 2) deal with the whole sunder/disarm issue. Barbarian/Bard or Ranger/Bard work well for a damage dealer build; Fighter/Bard, Sorceror/Paladin (can't take Paladin/Bard....), or Cleric/Bard work well for tank builds (for heavy armor proficiency). You could also replace the Bard level with a Sorceror level in any of the above, but then you would need to take the Sorceror level earlier, as a Sorceror doesn't get as many skill points as the bard for quickly filling out those needed Knoweledge(Arcane) ranks (although some of the options have Knoweledge(Arcane) as class skills for all classes, and can take either anywhere). [/QUOTE]

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