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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RaVan" data-source="post: 2481516" data-attributes="member: 16900">We're talking about a tank. Tanks don't get good will saves, that's the compromise. But HP's are a concern. You will start off way behind, but with the heightened Con you'll mostly catch up in 5 levels. Here's a break down-Rolled Abilities - AdjustedStr 18 - 26 (+8)Dex 13 - 13 (+1)Con 18 -  20 (+5)Int 12 -  14 (+2)Wis 15 -  15 (+2) Cha 10 - 12 (+1)Half-Dragon ECL 5Starting AC Before Add-ons 15Barb/Fighter  d12HP (Average) 28Fort +8Ref +1Will +2Ranger d10HP (Average) 25Fort +8Ref +4Will +2Normal race:Reg AC (Before Add-ons) 11Lev 5 Reg Barb HP 56Lev 5 Reg Fighter HP 46Lev 5 Reg Ranger HP 44And here are the Ave HP's at ECL 10Reg Barb HP 106Reg Fighter HP 95Reg Ranger HP 84Half-Dragon HP 89But if you're really worried about saves, consider this Paladin build. Hmm, Half-Dragon Paladin of Bahamut...Paladin (switch Int-Wis-Cha)AdjustedStr 26 +8Dex 13 +1Con 20 +5Int 12 +1Wis 14 +2 Cha 15 +2Starting AC Before Add-ons 15HD d12HP (Average) 28Fort +10Ref +3Will +4So in summary, your Half-Dragon tank will likely spend her hard earned cache on things that will increase her Con and HP, and in the beginning at least, will want to be good friends with the party healer. She will probably have Bear's Endurance cast on her more often than Bull's Strength. Upside is, she won't have to survive as many rounds in combat and she doesn't have to spend her hard earned cache on exponentially expensive weapons to get great hits and damage (automatic +4) and exponentially expensive amulets of natural armor (automatic +4). Also, she can swim and climb in armor if need be, and doesn't worry so much about those pesky save-or-die fortitude rolls. Yes, it's a compromise from a standard Fighter or Barbarian Tank, but still, a much better tank than a Dragon Disciple no matter how you look at it.~Rav</blockquote>

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