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<blockquote data-quote="Shag" data-source="post: 5301797" data-attributes="member: 13289">Hi!I'm still somewhat new to 4E and I have been learning alot of stuff that I missed in my rule reading while using the charcter builder.But this one is stumping me.Building a human bard Str 10, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 9, Wis 10, Cha 18I put him in chainmail with a light shield and this gives him in the builder an AC of 17, which I think is right but in the builder, in the break down it says base 10+6 armor,then it says misc+2 and then misc -1.&nbsp; Whats up with all those miscs?&nbsp; I have no feats that effect armor.&nbsp; Then on the reflex defense it says 13 which I think is wrong.&nbsp; It says base 10, then class 1, then misc +3 then misc -1.&nbsp; Once again what are all these miscs?I have a similar problem with the monk, its not adding anything to the unarmed strike.&nbsp; I think its a programming fault where the builder switches to 'Monk Unarmed attack' for the monk but all the bonuses are aimed at a simple 'melee attack' wrong tag.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shag, post: 5301797, member: 13289"] Hi! I'm still somewhat new to 4E and I have been learning alot of stuff that I missed in my rule reading while using the charcter builder. But this one is stumping me. Building a human bard Str 10, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 9, Wis 10, Cha 18 I put him in chainmail with a light shield and this gives him in the builder an AC of 17, which I think is right but in the builder, in the break down it says base 10+6 armor,then it says misc+2 and then misc -1. Whats up with all those miscs? I have no feats that effect armor. Then on the reflex defense it says 13 which I think is wrong. It says base 10, then class 1, then misc +3 then misc -1. Once again what are all these miscs? I have a similar problem with the monk, its not adding anything to the unarmed strike. I think its a programming fault where the builder switches to 'Monk Unarmed attack' for the monk but all the bonuses are aimed at a simple 'melee attack' wrong tag. [/QUOTE]

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