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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 1666149" data-attributes="member: 1757">Hmm; let's try it.Elven ShadowbladeWood elf shadow-walker Rog3/Ftr2/SToA5/TS4/Inv5 (PC acquires shadow-walker template around 6th or 7th level)[code]Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Class&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BAB&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Saving Throws&nbsp; &nbsp; Feats&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Spells&nbsp; &nbsp; Class Abilities1&nbsp; &nbsp; Rogue (1)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +0/+2/+0&nbsp; &nbsp; Dodge&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Sneak Attack +1d6, Trapfinding2&nbsp; &nbsp; Fighter (1)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +2/+2/+0&nbsp; &nbsp; Weapon Finesse&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fighter Feat3&nbsp; &nbsp; Fighter (2)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +3/+2/+0&nbsp; &nbsp; Mobility, Persuasive&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fighter Feat4&nbsp; &nbsp; Rogue (2)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +3/+3/+0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Evasion5&nbsp; &nbsp; Rogue (3)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4/+3/+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Sneak Attack +2d6, Trapsense +16&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadow Thief (1)&nbsp; &nbsp; +4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4/+5/+1&nbsp; &nbsp; Spring Attack&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Doublespeak, Sneak Attack +3d67&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadow Thief (2)&nbsp; &nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4/+6/+1&nbsp; &nbsp; Blind Fight&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Bonus Feat, Uncanny Dodge I8&nbsp; &nbsp; T. Shadowlord (1)&nbsp; &nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4/+8/+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadowsight, Shadowjump9&nbsp; &nbsp; T. Shadowlord (2)&nbsp; &nbsp; +6/+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4/+9/+1&nbsp; &nbsp; Point Blank Shot&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadowblur10&nbsp; &nbsp; T. Shadowlord (3)&nbsp; &nbsp; +7/+2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +5/+9/+2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1/0&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadow Walk11&nbsp; &nbsp; T. Shadowlord (4)&nbsp; &nbsp; +8/+3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +5/+10/+2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2/1&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadow Pounce12&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadow Thief (3)&nbsp; &nbsp; +9/+4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +6/+10/+3&nbsp; &nbsp; Far Shot&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Sneak Attack +4d6, Reputation +113&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadow Thief (4)&nbsp; &nbsp; +10/+5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +6/+11/+3&nbsp; &nbsp; Weapon Focus (dagger)&nbsp; &nbsp; Bonus Feat, Reputation +214&nbsp; &nbsp; Shadow Thief (5)&nbsp; &nbsp; +10/+5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +7/+12/+4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Sneak Attack +5d6, Uncanny Dodge II, Rep. +315&nbsp; &nbsp; Invisible Blade (1)&nbsp; &nbsp; +11/+6/+1&nbsp; &nbsp; +7/+14/+4&nbsp; &nbsp; TWF&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dagger SA +6d6, Unfettered defense16&nbsp; &nbsp; Invisible Blade (2)&nbsp; &nbsp; +12/+7/+2&nbsp; &nbsp; +7/+15/+4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Bleeding wound17&nbsp; &nbsp; Invisible Blade (3)&nbsp; &nbsp; +13/+8/+3&nbsp; &nbsp; +8/+15/+5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dagger SA +7d6, uncanny feint (MEA)18&nbsp; &nbsp; Invisible Blade (4)&nbsp; &nbsp; +14/+9/+4&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +8/+16/+5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Feint mastery19&nbsp; &nbsp; Invisible Blade (5)&nbsp; &nbsp; +15/+10/+5&nbsp; &nbsp; +8/+16/+5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dagger SA +8d6, uncanny feint (free action)[/code]The nice thing about this build is that it gets you +16 BAB at character level 20 (ECL 21). The bad thing is that it doesn’t get you ITWF or GTWF. So, here's one build, Remathilis! Your skills are practically pre-chosen for you, due to the PrC requirements. Max out Bluff, Hide, Move Silently, and maybe Tumble (though you don't really need it with Spring Attack and your shadowlord abilities), but otherwise you can do whatever you want.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 1666149, member: 1757"] Hmm; let's try it. [b]Elven Shadowblade[/b] Wood elf shadow-walker Rog3/Ftr2/SToA5/TS4/Inv5 (PC acquires shadow-walker template around 6th or 7th level) [code] Level Class BAB Saving Throws Feats Spells Class Abilities 1 Rogue (1) +0 +0/+2/+0 Dodge Sneak Attack +1d6, Trapfinding 2 Fighter (1) +1 +2/+2/+0 Weapon Finesse Fighter Feat 3 Fighter (2) +2 +3/+2/+0 Mobility, Persuasive Fighter Feat 4 Rogue (2) +3 +3/+3/+0 Evasion 5 Rogue (3) +4 +4/+3/+1 Sneak Attack +2d6, Trapsense +1 6 Shadow Thief (1) +4 +4/+5/+1 Spring Attack Doublespeak, Sneak Attack +3d6 7 Shadow Thief (2) +5 +4/+6/+1 Blind Fight Bonus Feat, Uncanny Dodge I 8 T. Shadowlord (1) +5 +4/+8/+1 0 Shadowsight, Shadowjump 9 T. Shadowlord (2) +6/+1 +4/+9/+1 Point Blank Shot 1 Shadowblur 10 T. Shadowlord (3) +7/+2 +5/+9/+2 1/0 Shadow Walk 11 T. Shadowlord (4) +8/+3 +5/+10/+2 2/1 Shadow Pounce 12 Shadow Thief (3) +9/+4 +6/+10/+3 Far Shot Sneak Attack +4d6, Reputation +1 13 Shadow Thief (4) +10/+5 +6/+11/+3 Weapon Focus (dagger) Bonus Feat, Reputation +2 14 Shadow Thief (5) +10/+5 +7/+12/+4 Sneak Attack +5d6, Uncanny Dodge II, Rep. +3 15 Invisible Blade (1) +11/+6/+1 +7/+14/+4 TWF Dagger SA +6d6, Unfettered defense 16 Invisible Blade (2) +12/+7/+2 +7/+15/+4 Bleeding wound 17 Invisible Blade (3) +13/+8/+3 +8/+15/+5 Dagger SA +7d6, uncanny feint (MEA) 18 Invisible Blade (4) +14/+9/+4 +8/+16/+5 Feint mastery 19 Invisible Blade (5) +15/+10/+5 +8/+16/+5 Dagger SA +8d6, uncanny feint (free action) [/code] The nice thing about this build is that it gets you +16 BAB at character level 20 (ECL 21). The bad thing is that it doesn’t get you ITWF or GTWF. So, here's one build, Remathilis! Your skills are practically pre-chosen for you, due to the PrC requirements. Max out Bluff, Hide, Move Silently, and maybe Tumble (though you don't really need it with Spring Attack and your shadowlord abilities), but otherwise you can do whatever you want. [/QUOTE]

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