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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1668926" data-attributes="member: 478">Spring Attack and Shadowdancer? Or is there anything else? At least I can't really think of anything right now. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />What's wrong with Improved Grapple? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Yep, that's about right.If you need Dodge/Mobility for something else (the feats themselves are pretty much useless for Rogue IMHO), and you fight larger opponents a lot (tho with Reduce Person (or just being a Halfling), that would happen a lot, of course), then Low Blow is good, but I think that are pretty strong limitations already.And even with the negative modifiers, the Bluff checks are not that hard to do, unless the opponent has an Int of 2.Of course you could also just use Quicker than the Eye, which is totally superior, but only printed in a 3.0 book. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And don't forget, that this ability is only useful if you cannot flank or have other ways to deny your target the Dex bonus to AC (like a ring of blinking).ByeThanee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1668926, member: 478"] Spring Attack and Shadowdancer? Or is there anything else? At least I can't really think of anything right now. :) What's wrong with Improved Grapple? :) Yep, that's about right. If you need Dodge/Mobility for something else (the feats themselves are pretty much useless for Rogue IMHO), and you fight larger opponents a lot (tho with Reduce Person (or just being a Halfling), that would happen a lot, of course), then Low Blow is good, but I think that are pretty strong limitations already. And even with the negative modifiers, the Bluff checks are not that hard to do, unless the opponent has an Int of 2. Of course you could also just use Quicker than the Eye, which is totally superior, but only printed in a 3.0 book. :) And don't forget, that this ability is only useful if you cannot flank or have other ways to deny your target the Dex bonus to AC (like a ring of blinking). Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]

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