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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8250866" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>... cooool. That's a whole pile of fascinating information. Thank you for sharing it. Worth noting, Pathfinder isn't where the idea of Sorcerers being bloodlines came from, it goes back to their introduction in 3e, through 3.5, through Pathfinder, into 4e, and now into Pathfinder 2e. If one of those influenced my mindset it's probably all the D&D ones that I've played and maybe some of the Pathfinder as well, but primarily D&D's long tradition... </p><p></p><p>And ultimately: 5e D&D doesn't -have- Canon. No D&D does. It's all based on the individual settings you're playing.</p><p></p><p>But. Why, exactly, are we talking about it?</p><p></p><p>Sorcerers may have a lot of story written into the class, but they've got none written into the settings. Which is the problem I'm elucidating with this thread. Without setting-specific story or lore or canon or whatever you choose to call it, they're sore thumbs and loose ends.</p><p></p><p>I don't give two flying frogs (cr 1/4) in the end whether the story is Birthright, Stolen Power, Granted by the Gods, or whatever the heck else. I used Magical Lineage in -my- setting 'cause I think it works well as a direction to go, what with the whole idea of a classist variant of magical power creating social hierarchy and narrative distance between Sorcerers and Wizards. Y'know, 'cause I'm the kind of writing nerd that likes to adapt sociology and politics into fantasy worlds through allegory as a way to make that fantasy world feel more "Real".</p><p></p><p>But the actual intent of the thread is that there should be -SOME- kind of lore outside the class description written into the actual setting. Which Sorcerers almost never do but are only one particularly notable example of the issue at hand.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8250866, member: 6796468"] ... cooool. That's a whole pile of fascinating information. Thank you for sharing it. Worth noting, Pathfinder isn't where the idea of Sorcerers being bloodlines came from, it goes back to their introduction in 3e, through 3.5, through Pathfinder, into 4e, and now into Pathfinder 2e. If one of those influenced my mindset it's probably all the D&D ones that I've played and maybe some of the Pathfinder as well, but primarily D&D's long tradition... And ultimately: 5e D&D doesn't -have- Canon. No D&D does. It's all based on the individual settings you're playing. But. Why, exactly, are we talking about it? Sorcerers may have a lot of story written into the class, but they've got none written into the settings. Which is the problem I'm elucidating with this thread. Without setting-specific story or lore or canon or whatever you choose to call it, they're sore thumbs and loose ends. I don't give two flying frogs (cr 1/4) in the end whether the story is Birthright, Stolen Power, Granted by the Gods, or whatever the heck else. I used Magical Lineage in -my- setting 'cause I think it works well as a direction to go, what with the whole idea of a classist variant of magical power creating social hierarchy and narrative distance between Sorcerers and Wizards. Y'know, 'cause I'm the kind of writing nerd that likes to adapt sociology and politics into fantasy worlds through allegory as a way to make that fantasy world feel more "Real". But the actual intent of the thread is that there should be -SOME- kind of lore outside the class description written into the actual setting. Which Sorcerers almost never do but are only one particularly notable example of the issue at hand. [/QUOTE]
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