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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8251655" data-attributes="member: 87792">First, the GM is not the Storyteller - and this is not a good model.Second, as someone who writes for fun and has friends who are professional writers, if your characters are something more than 2d cut outs following a set script they will reveal themselves to be actual characters and do things that you didn't expect. You may have written it but planned it is another matter. And people are more complex and varied not only than we imagine but than we can imagine and there will always be outliers.In the settings that don't have interventionist deities you generally don't have magic either. Just sayin'.Being somewhat less flippant the second biggest D&amp;D setting right now, Eberron, has clerics but does not generally have interventionist gods. Possibly the biggest high fantasy setting right now, period, the Warcraft universe has clerics but does not have interventionist gods. So clerics without interventionist gods are a major thing in major (and consequently in minor) fantasy settings.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8251655, member: 87792"] First, the GM is not the Storyteller - and this is not a good model. Second, as someone who writes for fun and has friends who are professional writers, if your characters are something more than 2d cut outs following a set script they will reveal themselves to be actual characters and do things that you didn't expect. You may have written it but planned it is another matter. And people are more complex and varied not only than we imagine but than we can imagine and there will always be outliers. In the settings that don't have interventionist deities you generally don't have magic either. Just sayin'. Being somewhat less flippant the second biggest D&D setting right now, Eberron, has clerics but does not generally have interventionist gods. Possibly the biggest high fantasy setting right now, period, the Warcraft universe has clerics but does not have interventionist gods. So clerics without interventionist gods are a major thing in major (and consequently in minor) fantasy settings. [/QUOTE]

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