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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 8251710" data-attributes="member: 92511">As I've said elsewhere (other threads) over the years, I've done much of what you suggest. Homebrewing classes and setting specific things is -in my estimation- one of the great joys of D&amp;D/fantasy RPGing. My &quot;Arcane Magic&quot; list is applicable, in it's entirety only to [what my game terms] the Mage class [I do not -in fact, all out refuse to- draw distinctions between &quot;Wizard&quot; and &quot;Sorcerer,&quot; at a class level].The &quot;specialist&quot; Mages, Illusionists, Conjurers, etc... have individualized spell lists that are (roughly) half spells that would be available to all Mages and half spells that are available only to the specialist. It's all still considered &quot;Arcane&quot; magic, because of the nature of the force with which they work. But in the class crunch AND the setting fluff, there is such a thing as &quot;Phantasmal [or, simply, &quot;Illusion&quot;] Magic,&quot; &quot;Conjuration Magic,&quot; and so on.E.G. The any &quot;generalist&quot; Mage is going to be able to learn, e.g., Wall of Fog, Glamour (i.e. Disguise Self), Invisibility, Mirror Image, Phantasm I (i.e. Phantasmal Force). Illusionist spell lists have all of that stuff too, of course. But they will also have, e.g., Gaze Reflection, Dispel Illusions/Charms, Phantasmal Killer that general mage's don't. They get things like Phantasmal Force and See Invisibility a level earlier than general Mages...AND, the Illusion Magic Specialist would gain spells like &quot;Phantasm II&quot; and &quot;Phantasm III&quot; (ever increasingly powerful and convincing &quot;Phantasmal Forces&quot;), which the general Mage can never master.So, I like the combination of common magics and specialty magics.I also make a distinction between Divine and Nature magic, so Clerics and Druids really aren't working from the same &quot;pool&quot; as it were. So the handling/figuring out how best to do Cleric/Divine magic is really it's own individualized thing. Druids (and other Nature Magic users) are fairly well tied into natural and elemental related spells and all draw from the same list...though individuals could certainly choose to focus all of their preparations in &quot;plant stuff&quot; or &quot;weather stuff&quot; or &quot;animal and fire spells&quot; or whatever the player likes. But I have not yet come to a place where &quot;grouping/separating&quot; magics for Nature magic-users is necessary (or has been requested).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 8251710, member: 92511"] As I've said elsewhere (other threads) over the years, I've done much of what you suggest. Homebrewing classes and setting specific things is -in my estimation- one of the great joys of D&D/fantasy RPGing. My "Arcane Magic" list is applicable, in it's entirety only to [what my game terms] the Mage class [I do not -in fact, all out refuse to- draw distinctions between "Wizard" and "Sorcerer," at a class level]. The "specialist" Mages, Illusionists, Conjurers, etc... have individualized spell lists that are (roughly) half spells that would be available to all Mages and half spells that are available only to the specialist. It's all still considered "Arcane" magic, because of the nature of the force with which they work. But in the class crunch AND the setting fluff, there is such a thing as "Phantasmal [or, simply, "Illusion"] Magic," "Conjuration Magic," and so on. E.G. The any "generalist" Mage is going to be able to learn, e.g., Wall of Fog, Glamour (i.e. Disguise Self), Invisibility, Mirror Image, Phantasm I (i.e. Phantasmal Force). Illusionist spell lists have all of that stuff too, of course. But they will also have, e.g., Gaze Reflection, Dispel Illusions/Charms, Phantasmal Killer that general mage's don't. They get things like Phantasmal Force and See Invisibility a level earlier than general Mages...AND, the Illusion Magic Specialist would gain spells like "Phantasm II" and "Phantasm III" (ever increasingly powerful and convincing "Phantasmal Forces"), which the general Mage can never master. So, I like the combination of common magics and specialty magics. I also make a distinction between Divine and Nature magic, so Clerics and Druids really aren't working from the same "pool" as it were. So the handling/figuring out how best to do Cleric/Divine magic is really it's own individualized thing. Druids (and other Nature Magic users) are fairly well tied into natural and elemental related spells and all draw from the same list...though individuals could certainly choose to focus all of their preparations in "plant stuff" or "weather stuff" or "animal and fire spells" or whatever the player likes. But I have not yet come to a place where "grouping/separating" magics for Nature magic-users is necessary (or has been requested). [/QUOTE]

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