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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8252244" data-attributes="member: 6704184">So what? (Ignoring that other fantasy settings do have some of those things, and things like them) The fact that there are specific things in a game doesn’t make the game non-generic. If it’s the word generic that’s bothering you we can use another, I don’t care, but the point is that D&amp;D can be any fantasy genre. It shines brightest when you include adventure in the genre specification, but it works without it.Okay, the name thing is disrespectful in a very strange way, but whatever. Not using aberrations or liches or finding any specific place for most of the races until they come up in adventure prep or character generation hardly qualifies as “not D&amp;D”.Most games I’ve seen never use whole swaths of the MM, none of my games feature a “blood war” even if set in a world that canonically has one because I find the fiend dichotomy rather stupid, and yet no one who has ever sat down at my table has posited that we weren’t playing D&amp;D . If it’s got some number of the D&amp;D races and classes, and swords and spells, and the D&amp;D action resolution system, and many of the creatures, etc, it’s a game of D&amp;D. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />Okay, but that isn’t a like comparison. No one I’ve ever played D&amp;D with assumes that every game of D&amp;D will specifically feature liches and beholders. It’s like claiming that I’m not eating a cheese burger because I didn’t put onions on it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8252244, member: 6704184"] So what? (Ignoring that other fantasy settings do have some of those things, and things like them) The fact that there are specific things in a game doesn’t make the game non-generic. If it’s the word generic that’s bothering you we can use another, I don’t care, but the point is that D&D can be any fantasy genre. It shines brightest when you include adventure in the genre specification, but it works without it. Okay, the name thing is disrespectful in a very strange way, but whatever. Not using aberrations or liches or finding any specific place for most of the races until they come up in adventure prep or character generation hardly qualifies as “not D&D”. Most games I’ve seen never use whole swaths of the MM, none of my games feature a “blood war” even if set in a world that canonically has one because I find the fiend dichotomy rather stupid, and yet no one who has ever sat down at my table has posited that we weren’t playing D&D . If it’s got some number of the D&D races and classes, and swords and spells, and the D&D action resolution system, and many of the creatures, etc, it’s a game of D&D. 🤷‍♂️ Okay, but that isn’t a like comparison. No one I’ve ever played D&D with assumes that every game of D&D will specifically feature liches and beholders. It’s like claiming that I’m not eating a cheese burger because I didn’t put onions on it. [/QUOTE]

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