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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 6265421" data-attributes="member: 6701124">More effectively than other classes does not necessarily mean effectively.   If someone wants to be a taffeta and spoon fighter, I want the game to have the mobile fighter with rapier and light armor and the heavy armored fighter with big sword to both mince him with ease.  This is because with equal effort and training, it seems like better equipment > worse or no equipment.  If they're putting some of their combat training into other skills, then they should be even worse still in a fight.  You did previously say you don't want the light-armor/big-weapon/skilled fighter to necessarily be equal to the standard one in a straight-up fight... just to belong in the same ring.  That seems reasonable to me. In 3.5, would a Rogue who-subbed out back-stab for bonus combat feats (from UA) and who had toughness and the one martial weapon proficiency be kind of what you're picturing (except in terms of the class name you had to write down)? Or maybe a skirmisher ranger from PF?I was about to start listing examples from Howard's stories (clearly not single class fighter, if even mostly fighter; wore armor when appropriate; etc...) ... you mean the movie Conan though?In either case, I'm pretty sure you could certainly make a very effective unarmored/big weapons fighter compared to all the other PCs in the game if everyone else had standard PC builds and they let you have the 68 point ability score build Conan would have (calculated using the point buy for PF).  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />     (All of the write-ups I've ever seen have him something like 18/17-18/18/12-15/11-15/14-17  -   -  <a href="http://old.enworld.org/Inzeladun/conan.htm" target="_blank">http://old.enworld.org/Inzeladun/conan.htm</a> , <a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?622972-4e-Conan-the-Barbarian-NPC" target="_blank">http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?622972-4e-Conan-the-Barbarian-NPC</a> , or the stats from the old D&D module are in the middle of <a href="http://dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=60964&hilit=conan+stats&start=60" target="_blank">http://dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=60964&hilit=conan+stats&start=60</a>  ).</blockquote>

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