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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 4203196" data-attributes="member: 5143">What he and some others are saying is:&nbsp; What is a bard?&nbsp; Is it someone who sings and inspires people?&nbsp; Is is someone who has the class ability Inspire Courage?&nbsp; Is it someone who has the word Bard at the top of their character sheets?If you weren't able to talk to plants and animals and transport via plants you certainly aren't any Bard I know.&nbsp; 1st Edition taught me what a Bard is.If I take Warlord as a class and I am capable of singing and inspiring people and I want to call myself a Bard how does that not make me a Bard?&nbsp; Simply because the game mechanics name me something else?&nbsp; The game mechanics are simply rules to explain how things work.In the case of barbarians, the word used to mean anyone who was &quot;uncivilized&quot;.&nbsp; Which doesn't mean they all raged.&nbsp; It doesn't mean none of them can cast spells.&nbsp; I can be a wizard who is a member of a barbarian tribe and has lived all his life outside of &quot;normal&quot; civilization.&nbsp; I'd be a &quot;barbarian&quot;.&nbsp; I just wouldn't be the class with the same name.It's not ignoring game mechanics.&nbsp; It's ignoring the fluff that goes WITH the game mechanics.The game mechanics of Barbarian say &quot;This class fights well and can use their anger to make them stronger and tougher a couple of times per day.&nbsp; They are illiterate.&quot;The fluff says &quot;They live in tribes wearing the skins of animals and are good hunters.&nbsp; They aren't used to civilization.&quot;Creativity is being able to make up new fluff that still fit the game mechanics.&nbsp; Say, you are a really stupid guy, prone to fits of rage.&nbsp; You grew up in a city with a wealthy family, but due to your learning disability you were never able to read or learn a normal profession.&nbsp; Eventually your parents paid to get you military training in the use of weapons figuring that it would be the only way you could make a living and maybe you could channel your anger.Now, you are Barbarian in class but not Barbarian in fluff.And that's what everyone is suggesting.&nbsp; That with the right amount of creativity, you could make a Warlord into a Bard.&nbsp; You might be constrained by the mechanics, but...if you are willing to change your concept just slightly, you can use them to make whatever you want.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 4203196, member: 5143"] What he and some others are saying is: What is a bard? Is it someone who sings and inspires people? Is is someone who has the class ability Inspire Courage? Is it someone who has the word Bard at the top of their character sheets? If you weren't able to talk to plants and animals and transport via plants you certainly aren't any Bard I know. 1st Edition taught me what a Bard is. If I take Warlord as a class and I am capable of singing and inspiring people and I want to call myself a Bard how does that not make me a Bard? Simply because the game mechanics name me something else? The game mechanics are simply rules to explain how things work. In the case of barbarians, the word used to mean anyone who was "uncivilized". Which doesn't mean they all raged. It doesn't mean none of them can cast spells. I can be a wizard who is a member of a barbarian tribe and has lived all his life outside of "normal" civilization. I'd be a "barbarian". I just wouldn't be the class with the same name. It's not ignoring game mechanics. It's ignoring the fluff that goes WITH the game mechanics. The game mechanics of Barbarian say "This class fights well and can use their anger to make them stronger and tougher a couple of times per day. They are illiterate." The fluff says "They live in tribes wearing the skins of animals and are good hunters. They aren't used to civilization." Creativity is being able to make up new fluff that still fit the game mechanics. Say, you are a really stupid guy, prone to fits of rage. You grew up in a city with a wealthy family, but due to your learning disability you were never able to read or learn a normal profession. Eventually your parents paid to get you military training in the use of weapons figuring that it would be the only way you could make a living and maybe you could channel your anger. Now, you are Barbarian in class but not Barbarian in fluff. And that's what everyone is suggesting. That with the right amount of creativity, you could make a Warlord into a Bard. You might be constrained by the mechanics, but...if you are willing to change your concept just slightly, you can use them to make whatever you want. [/QUOTE]

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