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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Little Raven" data-source="post: 4203348" data-attributes="member: 10095">Good thing I'm not shooting to win any sportsmanship awards or popularity contests, eh?I don't think this is true. Mechanics matter a lot to me. The title the mechanics are given are what is unimportant. With a warlord, I can play a bard character, since I can buff and support my group like a bard. I simply instill a little roleplaying flavor in the form of my character singing battle hymns or old war songs in order to inspire my allies. The mechanics are important, but the fact that it isn't called the "Bard" class or his abilities aren't call "Songs" is far from important.This is wrong as well. I feel it's a game's job to provide mechanics. However, since a game can't provide every possible mechanic for every possible thing, if a player wants to do something that the game doesn't provide exact mechanics to do, then he has a couple of options. One is to suck it up and deal with the fact that the game doesn't have what he wants. Another is to work within what the game provides in order to get the concept you want, even if it doesn't have the official game rule title of "Bard" or whatever. The third is to write it up themselves, or ask their DM to do it, or find someone else to provide the solution.I never said you called the people lazy, I said you called the solutions themselves lazy.And that's what you said, that it's stupid and lazy to expect players to do any work to play a concept not covered by the mechanics. I disagree with that, and think it's lazy to want to play a concept not covered by the rules and not to do anything about it.I guess so.I dunno how you define it, but when someone tells me that it's not a Bard or a Barbarian or a Druid unless the character sheet's class says Bard or Barbarian or Druid, and it has to fit a specific set of characteristics defined by them alone, it seems like a narrow-minded preconceived notion of the concept. Same with the suggestion that Swashbucklers are somehow honorable fighters that don't backstab people.</blockquote>

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