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<blockquote data-quote="PrecociousApprentice" data-source="post: 4204724" data-attributes="member: 61449">I have. You are right that I said any. But it was in the context of &quot;relatively&quot; and thus means something completely different from &quot;any with no exceptions, ever, no way&quot;. The no exceptions clause was something that was not intended. I did state the reasonable clause. It just came a little later in the post.I am not not new to well thought arguments. I wasn't posting to make an argument. I was suggesting something I though was helpful. Being new to Enworld means that I am unfamiliar with the fact that people will purposly misconstrue helpful comments in an effort to make a point about something they have posted about in various other threads. I am new to the idea that a discussion board was actually a battlefield, and that maybe I should approach it as such.I am happy that you have an appreciation for classical music, but this still doesn't detract from the fact that 4e class represents a suit of abilities and instant action possibilities that are all pertinent to combat, with a few tangentially related connections to out of combat abilities. I have never really been a fan of the bard who whips out a lute mid battle to sing a rousing song, but I did suggest that the inspirational warlord could fit the same bill. The charm and illusion stuff could potentially be ritual magic, seeing as how it is not necessarily instantaneous.No troll here. Politely posited premise followed by politely posited suggestions about how things could be done. It seems your inability to imagine may be the entire crux of our issue here.Sorry you feel so frustrated.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="PrecociousApprentice, post: 4204724, member: 61449"] I have. You are right that I said any. But it was in the context of "relatively" and thus means something completely different from "any with no exceptions, ever, no way". The no exceptions clause was something that was not intended. I did state the reasonable clause. It just came a little later in the post. I am not not new to well thought arguments. I wasn't posting to make an argument. I was suggesting something I though was helpful. Being new to Enworld means that I am unfamiliar with the fact that people will purposly misconstrue helpful comments in an effort to make a point about something they have posted about in various other threads. I am new to the idea that a discussion board was actually a battlefield, and that maybe I should approach it as such. I am happy that you have an appreciation for classical music, but this still doesn't detract from the fact that 4e class represents a suit of abilities and instant action possibilities that are all pertinent to combat, with a few tangentially related connections to out of combat abilities. I have never really been a fan of the bard who whips out a lute mid battle to sing a rousing song, but I did suggest that the inspirational warlord could fit the same bill. The charm and illusion stuff could potentially be ritual magic, seeing as how it is not necessarily instantaneous. No troll here. Politely posited premise followed by politely posited suggestions about how things [I]could[/I] be done. It seems your inability to imagine may be the entire crux of our issue here. Sorry you feel so frustrated. [/QUOTE]

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