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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arnwyn" data-source="post: 2307574" data-attributes="member: 7701">Well, I have no idea what you mean by "oddball", so I can't really make a meaningful response. There are some pretty basic no-brainer spells that most low level spellcasters can take, so that's taken care of nice 'n' quick too.I do agree that one can't throw a 15th level cleric together in 10 minutes. But who's talking about 15th level characters, and why did you bring that up? Really - who expects it to take the same amount of time to create a low level character compared to a high level one? (Maybe I'm showing my bias in that, as a player, I only actually "create" low-level characters, which are fast to make.) But, otherwise I do agree - making high level characters in D&D/d20 is brutally painful. As a DM, it's the worst part of the game. I hate making NPCs.</blockquote>