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<blockquote data-quote="Corsair" data-source="post: 3443411" data-attributes="member: 23477">Ok here is the problem I'm having:&nbsp; The one character archetype I play the LEAST is rogues, specifically of the generic DnD dungeoneering variety.&nbsp; But that is exactly the one niche that isn't covered in my current party.&nbsp; I don't really want to play a rogue, but everything else I'm considering would step on the toes of other players in one way or another.The rest of the party:Dwarf Barbarian 1 / Fighter 5Elf Duskblade 5Goliath Cleric 5Human Wizard 5 (Aiming foir Ultimate Magus)Halfling Bard 5 (Aiming for Virtuoso)Also important to note is I don't like playing characters similar to what I recently played or what I am playing in other games.I was just playing an elf warrior (barbarian/ranger/Beastmaster) so I'm not really interested in playing another tanky type.&nbsp; Druid feels like it would have too much in common to the last character animal companion wise, and as a nature-y character.&nbsp; I'm playing a wizard in another group, so I don't want to play an arcanist...&nbsp; I feel like I am obligated to play some kind of rogue, but I just can't get excited for playing a trap/lock monkey, no matter how much I try.My one character idea I was trying to make was a human noble of very minor lineage (like the 5th child of a minor count) deciding to adventure to raise funds and fame before cutting out his own little feifdom out of the wilderness.&nbsp; However I'm having trouble picking a class for him which will be useful without stepping on other people's toes.&nbsp; I really feel like I should be building him as a swashbuckler (or fighter with 1 level of swashbuckler for the people skills), but I'm afraid that he'll be superfluous in a party with 2 warriors and a warrior cleric already.Sorry for the rambling, but I have no idea what to do and the game is right after work today.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Corsair, post: 3443411, member: 23477"] Ok here is the problem I'm having: The one character archetype I play the LEAST is rogues, specifically of the generic DnD dungeoneering variety. But that is exactly the one niche that isn't covered in my current party. I don't really want to play a rogue, but everything else I'm considering would step on the toes of other players in one way or another. The rest of the party: Dwarf Barbarian 1 / Fighter 5 Elf Duskblade 5 Goliath Cleric 5 Human Wizard 5 (Aiming foir Ultimate Magus) Halfling Bard 5 (Aiming for Virtuoso) Also important to note is I don't like playing characters similar to what I recently played or what I am playing in other games. I was just playing an elf warrior (barbarian/ranger/Beastmaster) so I'm not really interested in playing another tanky type. Druid feels like it would have too much in common to the last character animal companion wise, and as a nature-y character. I'm playing a wizard in another group, so I don't want to play an arcanist... I feel like I am obligated to play some kind of rogue, but I just can't get excited for playing a trap/lock monkey, no matter how much I try. My one character idea I was trying to make was a human noble of very minor lineage (like the 5th child of a minor count) deciding to adventure to raise funds and fame before cutting out his own little feifdom out of the wilderness. However I'm having trouble picking a class for him which will be useful without stepping on other people's toes. I really feel like I should be building him as a swashbuckler (or fighter with 1 level of swashbuckler for the people skills), but I'm afraid that he'll be superfluous in a party with 2 warriors and a warrior cleric already. Sorry for the rambling, but I have no idea what to do and the game is right after work today. [/QUOTE]

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