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<blockquote data-quote="rushlight" data-source="post: 1446033" data-attributes="member: 3801">I ran a 3-year campaign, successfully, that was very plot-driven.&nbsp; The players knew about the idea of the campaign going into it, and everyone loved it.&nbsp; But at the conclusion of the campaign, I started asking for feedback about what they would like in the next one, and what they didn't really like about the first one.&nbsp;One thing they all mentioned is that the first campaign was that they felt &quot;pushed&quot; along by the events of the world.&nbsp; Basically, things were going on around them, and they had to actively work to prevent them.&nbsp; There wasn't alot of &quot;down-time&quot; for them to spend 3 months making magic items and whatnot.&nbsp; &nbsp;So, for the next campaign, I decided to take a different tack.&nbsp; I asked each player for a list of what his character would like to accomplish - both long and short term goals.&nbsp; Once the game started, everyone just sat around...&nbsp; No one had any motivation to accomplish anything.&nbsp; They made no progress toward anything, and the game was too stale.&nbsp; So, I ended up re-working the whole thing, and bringing back the forces of the world with which to drive them.&nbsp;Now, it's not really a &quot;forced plot&quot; campaign, but it's sort of character independent.&nbsp; Country &quot;A&quot; is planning to go to war with Country &quot;B&quot; over whatever.&nbsp; Country &quot;A&quot; has a definate timetable with which they will exectute their plans.&nbsp; If the players intend to stop this war, then they better get crackin' - the world will not wait for them to research every war-spell known to man and make 30 Rings of Protection +5 for their elite guard.&nbsp; Of course, they have the option of *not* attempting to stop the war (and going about doing something else - there's alot going on in the world!) or even helping to start the war and win it.&nbsp; So they aren't forced down any path, but they need to make decisions much quicker.&nbsp; Also, they still have some larger goals, broad in scope, that they are also working toward...&nbsp;I guess in short, unless you've got players who know what they want and are willing to work to get it, then you should tell them what they want and then they'll work to get it.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="rushlight, post: 1446033, member: 3801"] I ran a 3-year campaign, successfully, that was very plot-driven. The players knew about the idea of the campaign going into it, and everyone loved it. But at the conclusion of the campaign, I started asking for feedback about what they would like in the next one, and what they didn't really like about the first one. One thing they all mentioned is that the first campaign was that they felt "pushed" along by the events of the world. Basically, things were going on around them, and they had to actively work to prevent them. There wasn't alot of "down-time" for them to spend 3 months making magic items and whatnot. So, for the next campaign, I decided to take a different tack. I asked each player for a list of what his character would like to accomplish - both long and short term goals. Once the game started, everyone just sat around... No one had any motivation to accomplish anything. They made no progress toward anything, and the game was too stale. So, I ended up re-working the whole thing, and bringing back the forces of the world with which to drive them. Now, it's not really a "forced plot" campaign, but it's sort of character independent. Country "A" is planning to go to war with Country "B" over whatever. Country "A" has a definate timetable with which they will exectute their plans. If the players intend to stop this war, then they better get crackin' - the world will not wait for them to research every war-spell known to man and make 30 Rings of Protection +5 for their elite guard. Of course, they have the option of *not* attempting to stop the war (and going about doing something else - there's alot going on in the world!) or even helping to start the war and win it. So they aren't forced down any path, but they need to make decisions much quicker. Also, they still have some larger goals, broad in scope, that they are also working toward... I guess in short, unless you've got players who know what they want and are willing to work to get it, then you should tell them what they want and then they'll work to get it. :) [/QUOTE]

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