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<blockquote data-quote="Bladesinger_Boy" data-source="post: 5057269" data-attributes="member: 87403">[D]Tried using point by but some of my players are just to muncking to not abuse this and that means casters who relye more one 1 stat are more power.[/D]Sunking, I've found that point-buy actually a more trade off between the high costs of fewer specialized stats as opposed to more middle to low stats.&nbsp; I have no problems seeing PCs with an 18- they build a lop-sided character and will have penalties for it.I have no patience for the randomness in terms of not always being able to build the class you want, nor the power imbalance of varying point totals character to character.&nbsp; I guess point buy is a &quot;systems&quot; level approach to ability scores, that takes into account all elements as inter-related (rather than viewing each rolled stat as different/independent of each other).For Point Buy methods, I prefer the Pathfinder values more than the DMG's values.&nbsp; 14s are so juicy to buy in the DMG method because they still buy at a 1-to-1 ratio of point cost to ability score increase.&nbsp; 10 is the base score at a 0 point cost.&nbsp; With the exception of 11s being considered 1 point to buy, each stat is the summation of all the modifiers up to that points.&nbsp; And you can buy down to 7.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bladesinger_Boy, post: 5057269, member: 87403"] [D]Tried using point by but some of my players are just to muncking to not abuse this and that means casters who relye more one 1 stat are more power.[/D] Sunking, I've found that point-buy actually a more trade off between the high costs of fewer specialized stats as opposed to more middle to low stats. I have no problems seeing PCs with an 18- they build a lop-sided character and will have penalties for it. I have no patience for the randomness in terms of not always being able to build the class you want, nor the power imbalance of varying point totals character to character. I guess point buy is a "systems" level approach to ability scores, that takes into account all elements as inter-related (rather than viewing each rolled stat as different/independent of each other). For Point Buy methods, I prefer the Pathfinder values more than the DMG's values. 14s are so juicy to buy in the DMG method because they still buy at a 1-to-1 ratio of point cost to ability score increase. 10 is the base score at a 0 point cost. With the exception of 11s being considered 1 point to buy, each stat is the summation of all the modifiers up to that points. And you can buy down to 7. [/QUOTE]

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