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<blockquote data-quote="Olaf the Stout" data-source="post: 5845106" data-attributes="member: 13703">I haven't played the James Bond game but if point buy in that meant that every single 00 agent the PC's created ended up with the same numbers in the same stats (or close to it), then I still wouldn't like it.I don't mind that point buy means that you have high Dex Rogues, high Wis Clerics, high Int Wizards, etc.&nbsp; I get that and it makes sense.What I didn't like about point buy was that Cleric A, Cleric B, Cleric C and Cleric D for a given point buy level almost always have the same numbers in the same stats.&nbsp; This isn't the case for some classes, where you may have 2 very different archetypes for the same class (i.e.&nbsp; the high Dex archery Ranger vs the high Strength dual wielding Ranger), but it is for many of them.Similarly, the stats across classes tend not to vary much for a given point buy level.&nbsp; For example, I can't remember how many points I gave the PC's when we used point buy but all but 1 of the PC's had stats such as:&nbsp; 16, 14, 12, 12, 10, 10.&nbsp; The only difference was the stats that they put them in.So you get cookie cutter by class as well as cookie cutter by actual stat numbers.&nbsp; My experience meant it also made my players focus a lot more on how they could min-max their numbers, rather than just thinking about what might be a cool character to play.Olaf the Stout</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Olaf the Stout, post: 5845106, member: 13703"] I haven't played the James Bond game but if point buy in that meant that every single 00 agent the PC's created ended up with the same numbers in the same stats (or close to it), then I still wouldn't like it. I don't mind that point buy means that you have high Dex Rogues, high Wis Clerics, high Int Wizards, etc. I get that and it makes sense. What I didn't like about point buy was that Cleric A, Cleric B, Cleric C and Cleric D for a given point buy level almost always have the same numbers in the same stats. This isn't the case for some classes, where you may have 2 very different archetypes for the same class (i.e. the high Dex archery Ranger vs the high Strength dual wielding Ranger), but it is for many of them. Similarly, the stats across classes tend not to vary much for a given point buy level. For example, I can't remember how many points I gave the PC's when we used point buy but all but 1 of the PC's had stats such as: 16, 14, 12, 12, 10, 10. The only difference was the stats that they put them in. So you get cookie cutter by class as well as cookie cutter by actual stat numbers. My experience meant it also made my players focus a lot more on how they could min-max their numbers, rather than just thinking about what might be a cool character to play. Olaf the Stout [/QUOTE]

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