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<blockquote data-quote="JamisBuck" data-source="post: 349212" data-attributes="member: 12">lol!&nbsp; Toddlers running rampant--there's a metaphor and have never thought to apply to character generation. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So, from your examples, an OA would never remove data from an object, it would merely ignore anything it didn't understand, and add anything else it needed.&nbsp; I think I can see how that would work.I think I would argue counter to your assumption that &quot;self-aware&quot; data need more attention, though.&nbsp; By giving a datum the ability to make its own decisions, you've actually delegated responsibility to it.&nbsp; You can focus on other things and accept that the data will know what to do under any given circumstance.&nbsp; Perhaps I'm still not seeing your entire philosophy here, but it seems like removing the logic from the data requires you to pay more attention to the data...And don't worry about ideas having holes in them.&nbsp; I haven't seen a theory yet for entity generation that doesn't have holes in it.&nbsp; That's what these discussions are all about--patching up holes and finding models that can hold enough water to be robustly implemented.- Jamis</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JamisBuck, post: 349212, member: 12"] lol! Toddlers running rampant--[i]there's[/i] a metaphor and have never thought to apply to character generation. :) So, from your examples, an OA would never [i]remove[/i] data from an object, it would merely ignore anything it didn't understand, and [i]add[/i] anything else it needed. I think I can see how that would work. I think I would argue counter to your assumption that "self-aware" data need more attention, though. By giving a datum the ability to make its own decisions, you've actually delegated responsibility to it. You can focus on other things and accept that the data will know what to do under any given circumstance. Perhaps I'm still not seeing your entire philosophy here, but it seems like removing the logic from the data requires you to pay [i]more[/i] attention to the data... And don't worry about ideas having holes in them. I haven't seen a theory yet for entity generation that doesn't have holes in it. That's what these discussions are all about--patching up holes and finding models that can hold enough water to be robustly implemented. - Jamis [/QUOTE]

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