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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 5045266" data-attributes="member: 65726">I play a near identical half-orc thaneborn in LFR, with int and dex switched. I think 14 Cha is fine, but you have to take your powers with the low charisma in mind. For instance I get decent mileage out of shifting 2 with Vault the Fallen. I don't think you would get quite as much damage with the 2 extra damage from Escalating Violence, unless you have a ranger.If you like the power selection of Thaneborns that give damage bonuses, higher charisma would be more advisable. If you like the ones that give attack bonus or defense penalty, then even a lower charisma can yield good results because a +2 attack bonus is much stronger than a +2 damage bonus.Having said that, in LFR it's pretty easy to survive with low Con, especially since you're from Thay as Danceofmasks pointed out. So maybe you can steal some points from there.And I concur that Earthsoul with Earthshock Master (and Primordial Surge) is hard to pass up.</blockquote>