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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6422236" data-attributes="member: 22779">I'd have no real problem with the boxes collapsing as a result of a failed skill check.  If the DM simply allows the boxes to be present but then makes the boxes useless, well, that's kind of a dick move.  Might as well just say no in the first place if you're going to do that.  Adding family ties to an existing NPC is a pretty big campaign change.  A lot greater in scope than adding a half dozen boxes to an alleyway.  What kind of resources would you have to spend to make that large of a campaign change?  If it takes an inspiration point, for example, to add boxes in an undetailed alley, how many points would you have to spend to add family ties to a major noble in the campaign setting?  IME, players won't push things that far.</blockquote>