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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6422606" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>I would say that is the difference between good and bad comicbook plots...</p><p></p><p> wait... what!?!?! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm :-S" data-shortname=":-S" /> you do realize that comes off realling insulting to people who are BOT discriminating AND comic book fans right... and I bet this board has a higher % of comic fans then most on the internet...</p><p></p><p>[sblock] I do dislike a lot of modern comics, I liked the end of the eighty's and bits and pieces of the 90's in both Marvel and DC, when they were trying (not always succeeding) to tye all of the stories together. I don't expect every story to be the best ever written, but there is a lot good.</p><p></p><p>My example is a perfect example of good writing... why are Johnny and spidy friends, well they are the same age group and have similar sense of humor and both work the same high stress job in NY. Just because not every reader knows of the friendship (it isn't always referenced, and some times if you don't notice it's just a cell call from johnny) but it means he is a friend and resource. </p><p></p><p>on the other hand look at batman... he is a JLA member who when the whole city is attacked can't call his friend clark... because reasons. It's dumb when written that way.</p><p></p><p> [/sblock]</p><p></p><p> again.. just because it can be poorly written doesn't mean it has to be poorly written.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is always a first time for everything... you can't say the first time character X uses resource Y it's a Deus Ex Machina, you can't that's just insane... </p><p></p><p>The resource is there, it makes sense it's there, it fits the story that it's there, it doesn't just poof solve the problem it just is a resource to combat the problem...</p><p></p><p>in the example we started with the PC needed to get into a city, the resource they used was there old mentor... you say doing so is a Deus Ex Machina... lets go through my points above</p><p></p><p>The resource is there, the ninja clan lives near by... they have to be somewhere, inless there is a real good reason why not?</p><p></p><p></p><p> it makes sense it's there, They didn't just pop out of the ground as a ninja fully trined and grown, someone trained them...</p><p></p><p>it fits the story that it's there, again someone somewhere trained them, it is now a resource they need, and they tap into it..</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>it doesn't just poof solve the problem it just is a resource to combat the problem... and again no one said (even you) "Poof nPC solve problem" just let the PC go to the ninja clan for help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6422606, member: 67338"] I would say that is the difference between good and bad comicbook plots... wait... what!?!?! :-S you do realize that comes off realling insulting to people who are BOT discriminating AND comic book fans right... and I bet this board has a higher % of comic fans then most on the internet... [sblock] I do dislike a lot of modern comics, I liked the end of the eighty's and bits and pieces of the 90's in both Marvel and DC, when they were trying (not always succeeding) to tye all of the stories together. I don't expect every story to be the best ever written, but there is a lot good. My example is a perfect example of good writing... why are Johnny and spidy friends, well they are the same age group and have similar sense of humor and both work the same high stress job in NY. Just because not every reader knows of the friendship (it isn't always referenced, and some times if you don't notice it's just a cell call from johnny) but it means he is a friend and resource. on the other hand look at batman... he is a JLA member who when the whole city is attacked can't call his friend clark... because reasons. It's dumb when written that way. [/sblock] again.. just because it can be poorly written doesn't mean it has to be poorly written. There is always a first time for everything... you can't say the first time character X uses resource Y it's a Deus Ex Machina, you can't that's just insane... The resource is there, it makes sense it's there, it fits the story that it's there, it doesn't just poof solve the problem it just is a resource to combat the problem... in the example we started with the PC needed to get into a city, the resource they used was there old mentor... you say doing so is a Deus Ex Machina... lets go through my points above The resource is there, the ninja clan lives near by... they have to be somewhere, inless there is a real good reason why not? it makes sense it's there, They didn't just pop out of the ground as a ninja fully trined and grown, someone trained them... it fits the story that it's there, again someone somewhere trained them, it is now a resource they need, and they tap into it.. it doesn't just poof solve the problem it just is a resource to combat the problem... and again no one said (even you) "Poof nPC solve problem" just let the PC go to the ninja clan for help. [/QUOTE]
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