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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6422751" data-attributes="member: 67338">nope... not everything that isn't foreshadowed is a Deus Ex Machina. However once again just having CHaracter A be a Ninja does state someone trained them...tools that help solve the problem can't be Deus Ex Machina, because they themselves do not solve the issue, the main character still does... SO if the Ninja master snaps his fingers and has what you want... that is a Deus Ex Machina, if they instead give you a way past the magic wards and an idea how to sneak in... then all it does is give you another shot and you still need to solve the main problem... BS... It is in game just as logically if I have it maped out, or if I add it to the map at the last second. In game it is the same thing either way, it is only out of game that it matters. ANd is it any different if the DM put the city on the map after game started?1st... what improves the game is all that matters. If it is more fun to throw darts instead of roll d20 then throw darts for gods sake (not that I think that would be more fun, it was just the most crazy example I could think of)2nd... The DM describes the environment- and it was a city and an item and needing to get into city to get item, so check. The players describe their actions- The player went to his Ninja clan for help... so checkthis matches your idea of the game.it fits perfectly in the paradigm...except you are making it impossible to think in the game. There are facts that we all know, like I have parents, and someone taught me my skills, and that I grew up somewhere, and I trained somewhere.  If we didn't agree ahead of time who when and where, I can't think in game at all about those things... because they exsist but we didn't agree where. When I ask "Can my Ninja clan have agents, or a base around here to go to for help" it HAS to be out of game to the DM...</blockquote>

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