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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6428749" data-attributes="member: 6775031">Not even close. The out-of-game d20 roll represents the in-game chaos and uncertainty of combat. The character and player both decide to attack, based on their similar knowledge of circumstances and advantages, and hope for the best. The d20 roll is directly analogous to the character's attempt to hit an enemy, filtered through the abstraction of the game rules.For something like invoking a Luck aspect, it involves the player making a choice where the character has no influence. The player decides to invoke it, and the form it takes, which is not analogous to any decision by the character.There are certainly some examples which blur the line, as with the paladin warhorse example. For the most part, though, abilities can be cleanly categorized as either belonging to the character or to the player. Spellcasting is an entirely in-character ability. The Lucky aspect in a Fate game, or the feat which grants a re-rolls (that the player is free to pick and choose), require player authorship in order to work at all.And just to round things out, for the sake of contrast, the Halfling luck ability to automatically re-roll every 1 is an entirely in-game character ability which does not confer any player authorship.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 6428749, member: 6775031"] Not even close. The out-of-game d20 roll represents the in-game chaos and uncertainty of combat. The character and player both decide to attack, based on their similar knowledge of circumstances and advantages, and hope for the best. The d20 roll is directly analogous to the character's attempt to hit an enemy, filtered through the abstraction of the game rules. For something like invoking a Luck aspect, it involves the player making a choice where the character has no influence. The player [I]decides[/I] to invoke it, and the form it takes, which is not analogous to any decision by the character. There are certainly some examples which blur the line, as with the paladin warhorse example. For the most part, though, abilities can be cleanly categorized as either belonging to the character or to the player. Spellcasting is an entirely in-character ability. The Lucky aspect in a Fate game, or the feat which grants a re-rolls (that the player is free to pick and choose), require player authorship in order to work at all. And just to round things out, for the sake of contrast, the Halfling luck ability to automatically re-roll every 1 is an entirely in-game character ability which does [I]not[/I] confer any player authorship. [/QUOTE]

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