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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6429503" data-attributes="member: 177">Dude, you're welcome to not like Forge stuff.&nbsp; But, when you expression of that dislike goes to the point of insulting the skills or persons of people you've not even met or played with, then we are going to have an issue.&nbsp; Rule #1 of EN World is, &quot;Keep it civil.&quot;&nbsp; Insulting folks isn't civil.&quot;Calling out&quot; is not generally functional communication.&nbsp; Up above, you insulted someone.&nbsp; Do you think they're going to take your comments to heart, and learn from them?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; Since you insulted them, their emotions are going to get in the way.&nbsp; They are going to resist your point.&nbsp; And rightfully so, because you made it with more colorful and emotionally loaded language than you did with reason.&nbsp; You've given the fact that you disagree, but no support for why that disagreement is valid.&nbsp; So, except in the primate chest-beating sense, your point is pretty weak.There is a skill to giving constructive criticism (as opposed to just plain-old badmouthing something).&nbsp; If you want your points to be considered seriously, you will need to exercise that skill.&nbsp; This doesn't mean you can't discuss that which you don't like - but it does mean that you have to be thoughtful in your presentation.&nbsp; Thought #1: There is no One True Way.&nbsp; That you personally don't care for something is not evidence that it is objectively &quot;crap&quot;.&nbsp; There are lots of way to play the game, and people looking for lots of different things from their games.&nbsp; The person you are speaking to may be looking for fundamentally different things from the hobby than you are.&nbsp; Leave room for that.Thought #2: Address the logic of the post, not the person of the poster.&nbsp; Don't make it personal - that's a fast road to having an argument, rather than a discussion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6429503, member: 177"] [color=darkorange] Dude, you're welcome to not like Forge stuff. But, when you expression of that dislike goes to the point of insulting the skills or persons of people you've not even met or played with, then we are going to have an issue. Rule #1 of EN World is, "Keep it civil." Insulting folks isn't civil.[/color] [color=darkorange] "Calling out" is not generally functional communication. Up above, you insulted someone. Do you think they're going to take your comments to heart, and learn from them? No. Since you insulted them, their emotions are going to get in the way. They are going to resist your point. And rightfully so, because you made it with more colorful and emotionally loaded language than you did with reason. You've given the fact that you disagree, but no support for why that disagreement is valid. So, except in the primate chest-beating sense, your point is pretty weak. There is a skill to giving constructive criticism (as opposed to just plain-old badmouthing something). If you want your points to be considered seriously, you will need to exercise that skill. This doesn't mean you can't discuss that which you don't like - but it does mean that you have to be thoughtful in your presentation. Thought #1: There is no One True Way. That you personally don't care for something is not evidence that it is objectively "crap". There are lots of way to play the game, and people looking for lots of different things from their games. The person you are speaking to may be looking for fundamentally different things from the hobby than you are. Leave room for that. Thought #2: Address the logic of the post, not the person of the poster. Don't make it personal - that's a fast road to having an argument, rather than a discussion.[/color] [/QUOTE]

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