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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6445633" data-attributes="member: 5143">It's been a while since I've been back, but I wanted to respond to this in particular.  In this case, I say that the DM clearly put the boxes in the alley.  They were suggested by the player, but the DM decided to put them there.It's not a matter of veto power by the DM.  To me player authorship has to allow the players to actually have the ability to write things into the game.  Players don't.  They can suggest that the DM write things in and it is purely up to the DM whether he does or not.To me, the difference is one of expectations.  If you say that the players have player authorship but the DM has veto power, then what you are essentially saying is that the DM is taking action to strike down the ideas of the players who legitimately have the power to author things.  The implication here is that the DM will say yes to everything the players say and the DM, although he has veto power, won't say no very often.To me, that encourages the players to continually suggest things and fundamentally changes their role within the game.  I like my players to assume that 90% of the time their suggestions are going to be met with no since I already have a different idea in mind or the idea doesn't fit with my vision of how the world or game should work.To me saying that a player's suggestion that gets accepted by the DM is player authorship is like saying I'm part author of the Game of Thrones books since it is possible for me to post a suggestion on twitter to George RR Martin on what to put in his next book.  I can suggest it all I want but the expectation is that there is no way he's going to use it.</blockquote>

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