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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6446215" data-attributes="member: 6696971">I think its pretty pervasive, to be honest.&nbsp; I think it cuts to the core of the &quot;who should have the authority at the table&quot; question that haunts these discussions so deeply.&nbsp; Almost every one of these threads (from alignment oversight to the play procedures for fleshing out mundane scene details that may become relatively benign assets) assumes that the precautionary principle must be applied for the sake of us all because player proposals are assumed to be coming from an M.O. of dysfunction or bad-faith.What is interesting with this would be to find out what cross-section of GMs that hold these ideas also promote the &quot;access the plot dump&quot; (see Mearls GMing in one of the introductory videos to a live session of 5e) illusory mechanical resolution technique.&nbsp; Its a totally dysfunctional play procedure in every way possible...but the GM is in control so is that enough to warrant a pass on the technique?&nbsp; I mean, I saw nary a batting of an eyelash by supporters over it when that video was trotted out.&nbsp; However, it felt like I was hit by a cattle prod when I bore witness to it...you could probably hear my &quot;OH GOD NO&quot; groan in Australia when I saw that bit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6446215, member: 6696971"] I think its pretty pervasive, to be honest. I think it cuts to the core of the "who should have the authority at the table" question that haunts these discussions so deeply. Almost every one of these threads (from alignment oversight to the play procedures for fleshing out mundane scene details that may become relatively benign assets) assumes that the precautionary principle must be applied for the sake of us all because player proposals are assumed to be coming from an M.O. of dysfunction or bad-faith. What is interesting with this would be to find out what cross-section of GMs that hold these ideas also promote the "access the plot dump" (see Mearls GMing in one of the introductory videos to a live session of 5e) illusory mechanical resolution technique. Its a totally dysfunctional play procedure in every way possible...but the GM is in control so is that enough to warrant a pass on the technique? I mean, I saw nary a batting of an eyelash by supporters over it when that video was trotted out. However, it felt like I was hit by a cattle prod when I bore witness to it...you could probably hear my "OH GOD NO" groan in Australia when I saw that bit. [/QUOTE]

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