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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6446475" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>That's because, IME, almost all player proposals ARE coming from a position of bad faith. I once spent 2 hours on a phone call with one of my friends because he was making a character for a Rifts game. He was telling me his character background and how his character, despite being a Rahu-man(a 14 foot tall giant with 4 arms) was going to start with one of the most powerful human made power armors in the game(Glitterboy armor). He managed to get one built for his size and shape because he was taken in by a racist society who hated non-humans and they took a liking to him and eventually grew to trust him so much that they custom made him his own suit of armor.</p><p></p><p>Now only was his background completely unlikely to the point of basically being impossible. But it was readily apparent that he just wanted his character to be more powerful. So he spent a long time making up a background for his character just to give himself more power. He would not take no for an answer and spent that 2 hours tweaking his background slightly to make it more and more believable so that I'd relent and give him the suit of power armor.</p><p></p><p>This is the kind of things I expect my players to do. So, when one of them says "Hey, how about this..." I put my guard up immediate and start looking for the hidden reasons why they'd be suggesting that and why it might make them more powerful. If a suggestion comes out it almost always is an attempt to trick the DM into giving them more power without realizing it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Having not watched that video, what did he do exactly? From my watching of their sessions in the past, their games are almost identical to mine. I assume whatever he did is normal at the tables I've played at, but I'm not sure what "access the plot dump" means.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 6446475, member: 5143"] That's because, IME, almost all player proposals ARE coming from a position of bad faith. I once spent 2 hours on a phone call with one of my friends because he was making a character for a Rifts game. He was telling me his character background and how his character, despite being a Rahu-man(a 14 foot tall giant with 4 arms) was going to start with one of the most powerful human made power armors in the game(Glitterboy armor). He managed to get one built for his size and shape because he was taken in by a racist society who hated non-humans and they took a liking to him and eventually grew to trust him so much that they custom made him his own suit of armor. Now only was his background completely unlikely to the point of basically being impossible. But it was readily apparent that he just wanted his character to be more powerful. So he spent a long time making up a background for his character just to give himself more power. He would not take no for an answer and spent that 2 hours tweaking his background slightly to make it more and more believable so that I'd relent and give him the suit of power armor. This is the kind of things I expect my players to do. So, when one of them says "Hey, how about this..." I put my guard up immediate and start looking for the hidden reasons why they'd be suggesting that and why it might make them more powerful. If a suggestion comes out it almost always is an attempt to trick the DM into giving them more power without realizing it. Having not watched that video, what did he do exactly? From my watching of their sessions in the past, their games are almost identical to mine. I assume whatever he did is normal at the tables I've played at, but I'm not sure what "access the plot dump" means. [/QUOTE]
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