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<blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 6449453" data-attributes="member: 6688277">I think you are missing it - I have explained it in examples upthread, but I will try again.One of the examples given initially, by those that claim elements of player authorial control in D&amp;D, was that the paladin calling for his mount upon a certain level obliged the DM to create an storyline/quest where the paladin obtained his mount. That is no different to the players via the party choosing to take a different route from point A to B which wasn't planned by the DM. As DM he is obliged to create a quest for this new route. This happens all the time in D&amp;D, unless one only plays in railroad adventures or is such an amazing DM he has catered for every whim or idea the PCs could possibly propose in a session.So either you acknowledge that most if not all player/characters actions reflect player authorial control or there is no player authorial control at all. You cant claim on a handful of powers/spells that D&amp;D it is a game of player authorial control and exclude the actual roleplaying element of the game (players/characters choices/actions). There is no distinction here between the two.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadras, post: 6449453, member: 6688277"] I think you are missing it - I have explained it in examples upthread, but I will try again. One of the examples given initially, by those that claim elements of player authorial control in D&D, was that the paladin calling for his mount upon a certain level obliged the DM to create an storyline/quest where the paladin obtained his mount. That is no different to the players via the party choosing to take a different route from point A to B which wasn't planned by the DM. As DM he is obliged to create a quest for this new route. This happens all the time in D&D, unless one only plays in railroad adventures or is such an amazing DM he has catered for every whim or idea the PCs could possibly propose in a session. So either you acknowledge that most if not all player/characters actions reflect player authorial control or there is no player authorial control at all. You cant claim on a handful of powers/spells that D&D it is a game of player authorial control and exclude the actual roleplaying element of the game (players/characters choices/actions). There is no distinction here between the two. [/QUOTE]

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