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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6452593" data-attributes="member: 67338">maybe one of these days you should try playing with people who ask only for things that make the game better... well there is a good reason to feel that way sometimes, I have been trained the opposite...in 3.0   I had a game where the gods (a basic noris theme with some hombrew crazy thrown in) had been cast out of heaven by oden and was a basic rip off of the times of trouble from FR... my twist was it was 300 years later and the gods controlled huge city states and where making alliances and war on one another. There were a handful of freeholds that avoided the 'divine war' but the world was pretty bad being very war torn. Even goodish gods where pretty petty and cruel so there wasn't a lot of freedom in the world.  twice before the freeholds tried to work together to kill/overthrow the 'evil' gods. both times the 'gods' kicked there buts... All the PCs knew was that this time they would be going to a meeting about a new alliance to take down god cities, and I had 5 free holds they could be from, each had classes and races allowed from it (no clerics or paladins for obvious reasons).At character creation I had 7 players, and 6 of them followed the lists no problem... then came Jon. He decided he wasn't from a freehold, he was the last son of Oden and Frya raised after they cast out the other gods, he isn't from a free hold, but cast out now to help end this war on mudguard. He would be the race assimar and the class cleric...I said, um OK, but you have to multi class fighter, and you can never have more cleric levels then fighter levels, and I would make a prestige class "last son of oden" before game three...that game was awesome fun.A second game (this one deadlands) the GM wanted everyone to make characters in a western town on the north south boarder... one player came up with something from hell on earth (a radiation priest) and we rolled with it, he had fallen through a whole in time. he was the ultimate outsider, it worked well...so I've over the years learned Yes is much more fun if you can make it work. There are times you can't get things to work, and have to say "sorry, but no" and there are times when people do crazy things you have to say "Hell no" but I've also learned that people except no from me easier then DMs who almost never say yes...</blockquote>

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