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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zak S" data-source="post: 6609677" data-attributes="member: 90370">When the players can't go "<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> all your hooks" and do something else it is _less_ of a sandbox but not necessarily not a sandbox..For example this:""Over the course of the afternoon, you wrack your brains to come up with a new lead or a new angle on the problem, but nothing comes to mind and you're afraid you might have to file this under Unsolved Mysteries for now."…is a "choker" technique that objectively makes play less sandboxy...A way to do this that'd be more sandbox is simple, have a consequence of a thing they did or did not do earlier bite them on the butt during the investigation. If it's a thing they did do, that's player driven, if it's a ting they didn't do but could've that's less player driven but still arguably player driven, if it's a thing they could've done nothing about that's not player-driven.All kinds of RPG have constraints and sandbox is really more of a scale than a yes/no:<a href="http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2010/05/chokers-and-chandlers.html" target="_blank">http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2010/05/chokers-and-chandlers.html</a>…as soon as you introduce even one NPC who has a mind of their own and use them that way, you introduce the POSSIBILITY of it not being wholly sandbox anymore (especially when "ending the world" becomes a thing an NPC can do if not dealt with), but it's really much more of a gradient.That article lays out Total Railroad and Total Sandbox and everything in between (I think).</blockquote>

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