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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6610428" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Okay, thanks for quoting it. In the scenario in question (DM sees the PCs aren't making headway and closes the scene with a quick narration), which choker do you see being applied? Limiting resources, limiting information, unanticipable events, anticipated uncontrollable event, mind control, unique reward, nullification, nudging, pointing by punishing, nursing: none of these apply unless you think &quot;closing the scene&quot; is a form of nudging. But that doesn't fit the definition of nudging:It doesn't fit because closing the scene doesn't affect the PCs, only the players.P.S. Are you thinking of Limiting Information? &quot;Limiting information&quot; only applies if the PCs have no way to get information, which isn't the scenario under discussion. In the scenario under discussion from (post #840) there are ways for them to acquire information but the PCs aren't using them and aren't making progress.It would help a lot if you specified which choker you think is being applied, because none of them fit.BTW, &quot;clockwork sandboxes&quot; (in your article's terminology) are every bit as much a sandbox as a location-based sandbox in my opinion. If what you mean by &quot;less sandboxy&quot; is merely &quot;less location-based&quot; then we will simply have to disagree there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6610428, member: 6787650"] Okay, thanks for quoting it. In the scenario in question (DM sees the PCs aren't making headway and closes the scene with a quick narration), which choker do you see being applied? Limiting resources, limiting information, unanticipable events, anticipated uncontrollable event, mind control, unique reward, nullification, nudging, pointing by punishing, nursing: none of these apply unless you think "closing the scene" is a form of nudging. But that doesn't fit the definition of nudging: It doesn't fit because closing the scene doesn't affect the PCs, only the players. P.S. Are you thinking of Limiting Information? "Limiting information" only applies if the PCs have no way to get information, which isn't the scenario under discussion. In the scenario under discussion from (post #840) there are ways for them to acquire information but the PCs aren't using them and aren't making progress. It would help a lot if you specified [I]which[/I] choker you think is being applied, because none of them fit. BTW, "clockwork sandboxes" (in your article's terminology) are every bit as much a sandbox as a location-based sandbox in my opinion. If what you mean by "less sandboxy" is merely "less location-based" then we will simply have to disagree there. [/QUOTE]

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