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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 2576582" data-attributes="member: 3854">Yeah, I know. I followed your example by making the 19 a 20 -- nice round number fore easier crunching.Why? You can't go giving one side more stuff (or more/better personalized stuff). If you give one fighter more/better magic equipment or ability scores, you have to give the other also (and remember that AD&D1 characters got full Dex bonus in heavy armor). This is supposed to be a neutral comparison.I was just following the suggestion that one needs to compare the characters with their environment to judge their power levels.I think it interesting that most people pick the fighter class to compare between editions. Feats, as a pickable mechanic, are a big difference between the editions, and fighter get the most of them in the latest. And it seems (from reading all the info back when D&D3 was announced and anticipated) that feats were first a thing for fighters specifically, to give them some mechanic to match what the other classes got - skills, spells, special abilities, etc.Fighters used to be a good baseline for comparisons, because they had nothing special. Now, though, fighters have a major part in a major mechanic. And ironically, that can make them one of the most variable classes -- not good for using as a comparison.Quasqueton</blockquote>