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<blockquote data-quote="RUMBLETiGER" data-source="post: 6073700" data-attributes="member: 6674868"><p>My feelings about the Vow of Poverty are stronger than my feelings about the Feral Template- way too much and not for player use.</p><p></p><p>It is overpowered if the PC is naked.</p><p></p><p>You are correct in all the rules violations you have observed, in addition to the fact that this player is likely trying to abuse a few somethings.</p><p></p><p>True Necromancer is in Libris Mortus, p.51. Alignment requirement is Nongood. Must be able to Rebuke undead and access to the Death domain are a few other requirements. Some class abilities include being able to create zones of Desecration. </p><p></p><p>The fluff text reads, in part:</p><p>"Power Corrupts. Power over life and death corrupts absolutely. The power to raise an undying servant from the husk of the formerly living is darkly tempting- and certainly evil." </p><p>The text goes on to use words like "sinister schooling", "Combine the foulest aspects" and "Evil associations". </p><p></p><p>Some bread & Butter spells such as <em>Animate Dead, </em><em>Create Undead, Create Greater Undead</em> etc. are spells of the Evil subtype. True Necromancer gets <em>Create Undead </em>and <em>Create Greater Undead</em> as class abilities. </p><p></p><p>I like symbionts, I really do. I try to find a way to acquire a psionic sinew in games if my DM is willing to let me.</p><p></p><p>However, a few things about the Ghostly Visage:</p><p></p><p>-it is not on any list I'm aware of for acceptable familiars.</p><p></p><p>-It is a Fiendish symbiont. Let me quote some text from the Fiend Folio, p.219 under "Drawbacks of Fiendish Symbiont":</p><p></p><p>"Creatures of good alignment with a fiendish symbiont must make a will save (DC 15) every day or take 1d3 points of wisdom damage"</p><p></p><p>"Creatures of non-evil alignment must make a will save (DC 15) each day or succumb to temptation to perform an evil act"</p><p></p><p>"When characters with fiendish symbionts interact with nonevil NPCs, a -6 circumstance penalty is applied on all charisma checks"</p><p></p><p><u><strong>Now</strong></u>, Book of Exalted Deeds reads, in part on p.39:</p><p>"Only intelligent characters of good alignment and the highest moral standards can acquire exalted feats, and only as a gift from powerful agents of good- deities, celestials, or similar creatures... a character who willingly and willfully commits an evil act looses all the benefits from all his exalted feats."</p><p></p><p>I don't think anyone can spin a clever enough backstory to justify a <u>Exalted feat</u> Ghostly Visage Lawful Good Half Vampire True Necromancer. Even if he did, as soon as he did anything using his class powers or succumbed to his familiar, he'd lose the exalted feat.</p><p></p><p>...If he wants to make a non-good Half Vampire True Necromancer and is ok with being compelled daily to do an evil act from his Ghostly Visage not-familiar, then groovy. Or he can just swallow the evil alignment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RUMBLETiGER, post: 6073700, member: 6674868"] My feelings about the Vow of Poverty are stronger than my feelings about the Feral Template- way too much and not for player use. It is overpowered if the PC is naked. You are correct in all the rules violations you have observed, in addition to the fact that this player is likely trying to abuse a few somethings. True Necromancer is in Libris Mortus, p.51. Alignment requirement is Nongood. Must be able to Rebuke undead and access to the Death domain are a few other requirements. Some class abilities include being able to create zones of Desecration. The fluff text reads, in part: "Power Corrupts. Power over life and death corrupts absolutely. The power to raise an undying servant from the husk of the formerly living is darkly tempting- and certainly evil." The text goes on to use words like "sinister schooling", "Combine the foulest aspects" and "Evil associations". Some bread & Butter spells such as [I]Animate Dead, [/I][I]Create Undead, Create Greater Undead[/I] etc. are spells of the Evil subtype. True Necromancer gets [I]Create Undead [/I]and [I]Create Greater Undead[/I] as class abilities. I like symbionts, I really do. I try to find a way to acquire a psionic sinew in games if my DM is willing to let me. However, a few things about the Ghostly Visage: -it is not on any list I'm aware of for acceptable familiars. -It is a Fiendish symbiont. Let me quote some text from the Fiend Folio, p.219 under "Drawbacks of Fiendish Symbiont": "Creatures of good alignment with a fiendish symbiont must make a will save (DC 15) every day or take 1d3 points of wisdom damage" "Creatures of non-evil alignment must make a will save (DC 15) each day or succumb to temptation to perform an evil act" "When characters with fiendish symbionts interact with nonevil NPCs, a -6 circumstance penalty is applied on all charisma checks" [U][B]Now[/B][/U], Book of Exalted Deeds reads, in part on p.39: "Only intelligent characters of good alignment and the highest moral standards can acquire exalted feats, and only as a gift from powerful agents of good- deities, celestials, or similar creatures... a character who willingly and willfully commits an evil act looses all the benefits from all his exalted feats." I don't think anyone can spin a clever enough backstory to justify a [U]Exalted feat[/U] Ghostly Visage Lawful Good Half Vampire True Necromancer. Even if he did, as soon as he did anything using his class powers or succumbed to his familiar, he'd lose the exalted feat. ...If he wants to make a non-good Half Vampire True Necromancer and is ok with being compelled daily to do an evil act from his Ghostly Visage not-familiar, then groovy. Or he can just swallow the evil alignment. [/QUOTE]
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