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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6074078" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>Well, from the group feedback I've gotten so far,the other DMs/Players like the guy himself. He's a strong roleplayer, which is always nice to have.</p><p></p><p>His character, on the other hand, is a bit on the power-gamerish side for us.</p><p></p><p>Now to be fair, he had no idea what relative power level we were playing with, so it's not surprising that he missed the mark on that.</p><p></p><p>As for the character itself...</p><p></p><p>The True Necromancer PRC has some specific prerequisites. Alignment can be any non-good, has to be able to cast Summon Undead II as a Divine spell, and Control Undead as an Arcane spell. Must have Rebuke Undead and access to the Death domain. A few Knowledge requirements, and the feat Spell Focus: Necromancy.</p><p></p><p>Rebuke Undead and the Death domain are both characteristics of a Cleric of an Evil deity. The Vow of Poverty and the associated Exalted feats require that a person be of Good alignment. </p><p></p><p>So, to play the alignment gymnast on his behalf, let's presume that he reached True Necromancer, then underwent an epiphany and went Good. Atonement or something similar.</p><p></p><p>As soon as his Alignment goes Good, he loses his Cleric abilities, since he's more than one notch away from his deity on the Good/Evil scale. If I were the DM running that, I'd require that he renounce his evil ways as part of the Atonement. That means no more True Necromancer. But I wasn't the DM, that happened in creation story, so we'll give it to him for the moment.</p><p></p><p>Even given that, as soon as his Alignment goes Good, he loses his Cleric abilities, since he's more than one notch away from his deity on the Good/Evil scale. </p><p></p><p>He would only start to get Exalted feats after he took the Vow. That perk of the Vow is not retroactive. So he'd have to lose pretty much all of those Feats.</p><p></p><p>Next is the level requirement... Summon Undead II is a second level spell, so Cleric 3 would give him that.</p><p></p><p>Command Undead is Wiz/Sorc 7, so he'd have to be Wiz 13 or Sorcerer 14.</p><p></p><p>Add in the True Necromancer level and he's a minimum 17th level character, 18th if he went the Sorcerer route. (BTW: He went the Sorcerer route). Add in the two level bump for Half Vampire and we're talking about 19th or 20th. (Savage Progression isn't applicable for an inherited template, and if he wanted to buy off the ECL adjustments we'd have to dock him the appropruate EXP off his starting amount.)</p><p></p><p>His character is supposedly 12th level. So he's about 6 levels short of where he'd have to be to have that build, 8 when you look at the ECL.</p><p></p><p>Then there's the nonsense about him swinging a Lucern hammer of Adamantine and Dark Metal, while under a Vow of Poverty.</p><p></p><p>I think I have to cast Dispel BS on his character and ask him to start over. What he has isn't in the same time zone as legal.</p><p></p><p>A few mistakes, like thinking Masterworked was allowed under the Vow, those we could overlook. He's way beyond that though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6074078, member: 6669384"] Well, from the group feedback I've gotten so far,the other DMs/Players like the guy himself. He's a strong roleplayer, which is always nice to have. His character, on the other hand, is a bit on the power-gamerish side for us. Now to be fair, he had no idea what relative power level we were playing with, so it's not surprising that he missed the mark on that. As for the character itself... The True Necromancer PRC has some specific prerequisites. Alignment can be any non-good, has to be able to cast Summon Undead II as a Divine spell, and Control Undead as an Arcane spell. Must have Rebuke Undead and access to the Death domain. A few Knowledge requirements, and the feat Spell Focus: Necromancy. Rebuke Undead and the Death domain are both characteristics of a Cleric of an Evil deity. The Vow of Poverty and the associated Exalted feats require that a person be of Good alignment. So, to play the alignment gymnast on his behalf, let's presume that he reached True Necromancer, then underwent an epiphany and went Good. Atonement or something similar. As soon as his Alignment goes Good, he loses his Cleric abilities, since he's more than one notch away from his deity on the Good/Evil scale. If I were the DM running that, I'd require that he renounce his evil ways as part of the Atonement. That means no more True Necromancer. But I wasn't the DM, that happened in creation story, so we'll give it to him for the moment. Even given that, as soon as his Alignment goes Good, he loses his Cleric abilities, since he's more than one notch away from his deity on the Good/Evil scale. He would only start to get Exalted feats after he took the Vow. That perk of the Vow is not retroactive. So he'd have to lose pretty much all of those Feats. Next is the level requirement... Summon Undead II is a second level spell, so Cleric 3 would give him that. Command Undead is Wiz/Sorc 7, so he'd have to be Wiz 13 or Sorcerer 14. Add in the True Necromancer level and he's a minimum 17th level character, 18th if he went the Sorcerer route. (BTW: He went the Sorcerer route). Add in the two level bump for Half Vampire and we're talking about 19th or 20th. (Savage Progression isn't applicable for an inherited template, and if he wanted to buy off the ECL adjustments we'd have to dock him the appropruate EXP off his starting amount.) His character is supposedly 12th level. So he's about 6 levels short of where he'd have to be to have that build, 8 when you look at the ECL. Then there's the nonsense about him swinging a Lucern hammer of Adamantine and Dark Metal, while under a Vow of Poverty. I think I have to cast Dispel BS on his character and ask him to start over. What he has isn't in the same time zone as legal. A few mistakes, like thinking Masterworked was allowed under the Vow, those we could overlook. He's way beyond that though. [/QUOTE]
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