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<blockquote data-quote="Tequila Sunrise" data-source="post: 6074136" data-attributes="member: 40398">Shenanigans! If this guy isn't blatantly cheating, this must be his first time playing a ttrpg. (Not just D&amp;D 3.x; any ttrpg.) Or he has the math skills of a 2nd grader. When someone says &quot;Our campaign is 12th level,&quot; you don't show up out of the blue with anything higher-level than that.Honestly, the VoP shouldn't be an issue; at the lowest levels, it provides a few more benefits than WBL. But it quickly evens out, and then falls behind WBL at later levels. If the group is at ~12th level, he's losing more than he's gaining.And the lucern hammer is hardly game-breaking. But he's clearly playing fast and loose with the rules, and dollars to donuts, he knows it. Telling him to respec his character to, ya know, follow the rules and table standards would be the very mildest of my responses. I'd consider booting him immediately; and if the other players don't mind him cheating, they can invite him back when they take the DM chair.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tequila Sunrise, post: 6074136, member: 40398"] Shenanigans! If this guy isn't blatantly cheating, this must be his first time playing a ttrpg. (Not just D&D 3.x; [I]any[/I] ttrpg.) Or he has the math skills of a 2nd grader. When someone says "Our campaign is 12th level," you don't show up out of the blue with anything higher-level than that. Honestly, the VoP shouldn't be an issue; at the lowest levels, it provides a few more benefits than WBL. But it quickly evens out, and then falls behind WBL at later levels. If the group is at ~12th level, he's losing more than he's gaining. And the lucern hammer is hardly game-breaking. But he's clearly playing fast and loose with the rules, and dollars to donuts, he knows it. Telling him to respec his character to, ya know, follow the rules and table standards would be the very mildest of my responses. I'd consider booting him immediately; and if the other players don't mind him cheating, they can invite him back when they take the DM chair. [/QUOTE]

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