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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1566660" data-attributes="member: 3146">First things first.1. Bane weapons have a fair amount of use for ordinary PCs as well as for specialized NPCs. A rogue, for instance might get an undead bane weapon so that he can contribute more against one of the particular foes who is not vulnerable to his main abilities. Similarly, a character who buys an adamantine weapon for fighting constructs might well make it a +1 construct bane adamantine weapon. By the time he gets into high levels, 11kgp isn't that much more than 3kgp. And it's a LOT better at bashing constructs.My main Living Greyhawk character's primary weapon is a wounding weapon. His secondary weapon is undead bane. I didn't quite plan it this way but it works out pretty well. Undead are not effected by the wounding ability of his main weapon so he's got a secondary weapon keyed to fighting them.2. Characters can get quite specialized. However, it's not always a good to do everything to optimize one's specialization. For the rogue skills, though, I'll bite:Grey elf Rog 3/Wizard 7/Arcane Trickster 10. Starting Int 20. Starting Dex 16. All stat boosts go into intelligence.Max ranks in search, disable device, and open lock. (Doesn't technically require buying ranks cross-class with wizard skill points but he probably did).Feats in Skill Focus: Disable Device, Skill Focus: Search, Skill Focus: Open Lock, and Nimble Fingers.Items: +5 tome of intellect, +6 headband of intellect, +6 gloves of dexterity, vest of escape, lens of detection, goggles of minute seeing.Spells: Greater HeroismSkill bonusses:Disable Device: +49 =+23 ranks, +13 int, +5 feats, +4 morale, +4 vest of escape toolsSearch: +60 (or +53 if your DM is sensible and doesn't let the lens of detection and goggles of minute seeing stack) =+23 ranks, +13 int, +3 feat, +4 morale, +15 items, +2 raceOpen Lock: +42=+23 ranks, +6 dex, +5 feats, +4 morale, +4 vest of escape toolsFor trip checks, my main Living Greyhawk character isn't too bad. Cleaned up a little bit  and power gamed a bit more (ie how he would have been if 3.5 prestige classes had been available when he was lower level and if I had min-maxed a little bit more than I did): Fighter 1/Wizard 6/Eldritch Knight 7/Spellsword 1Feats: Power Attack, Quickdraw, Combat Expertise, Improved Trip, Scribe Scroll, Craft Wondrous Items, Combat Reflexes, Arcane Strike, Expert Tactician, Quicken SpellStats (28 point buy): Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 10, Cha 8All stat bumps to int.Items: Guisarme, Light Flail, Mithral Chain Shirt, Mithral Buckler, Stone of Good luck, +6 belt of giant strength, Rod of maximize Spell, lesser rod of empower spell, Orange Ioun Stone, +6 headband of IntellectSpells: Contingency, Polymorph, Quickened Ray of Enfeeblement, Enervation, Blink, HeroismTactic: Polymorph into an Athach is the contingencyRound 1: Activate Polymorph contingency, Quickened Ray of Enfeeblement on the bad guy (using lesser rod of empower spell), drop rod as a free action, quickdraw rod of maximize as a free action, Enervation on the bad guy (using rod of maximize).Total Trip bonus: Effectively +35 =+8 size, +11 strength, +4 feat, +1 luck, (+6.75--average change in opposed score due to Ray of Enfeeblement), (+4--change in opposed score due to Enervation)One could, of course, do better with Shapechange and a few other items.Added Items: +5 tome of strength, Greater Ring of Spellstoring, spellstoring weapon (bestow curse), greater rod of maximizeTechnique: Shapechange into a Storm Giant (base str 39, 45 with belt and 50 with inherent bonus (assuming that transfers to alternate forms). Cast righteous might from the ring of spellstoring. (Size=Gargantuan (assuming Shapechange counts as form changing magic and not size-altering magic, str=58) Debuff as above except you can use Energy Drain instead of Enervation.Trip check +58 (effective) =+23 str, +12 size, +4 feat, +1 luck, +6.75 ray of enfeeblement, +3 curse (-6 str), +8 energy drainAt epic levels, or with Complete Divine's Practiced Spellcaster feat you could do even better by taking the form of a Titan.Now the character won't usually do all of that in any single fight and is able to do a LOT of other things but if he decides to use all his spells to that one purpose, he is remarkably effective at tripping.</blockquote>

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