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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8462397" data-attributes="member: 22779">Yeah, I've found that the campaigns themselves aren't that different.&nbsp; Just the solutions to problems.&nbsp; Basically, the PC's turn into characters from Watchmen or The Umbrella Academy.&nbsp; Anti-heroes essentially.&nbsp; Which I've found is a lot easier to get buy in from the players on in the past.&nbsp; A LOT of it comes down to players wanting the DM to keep his or her greasy fingers off the player's character sheets.&nbsp; If the character is evil, the DM cannot ever say, &quot;Oh, you wouldn't do that&quot;.&nbsp; Not that I would, but, I think a lot of players get trained in ways to very jealously guard their characters from DM interference.&nbsp; Might explain a bit why the players play characters with pretty much zero ties to the setting.&nbsp; The orphan character from far away that's a fish out of water.&nbsp; A perfectly fine archetype, the first few times, but, an entire group of this time after time after time gets a bit off putting to the DM.&nbsp; After all, why am I bothering with more than the bare minimum of a setting if the characters never actually use any of the setting?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8462397, member: 22779"] Yeah, I've found that the campaigns themselves aren't that different. Just the solutions to problems. Basically, the PC's turn into characters from Watchmen or The Umbrella Academy. Anti-heroes essentially. Which I've found is a lot easier to get buy in from the players on in the past. A LOT of it comes down to players wanting the DM to keep his or her greasy fingers off the player's character sheets. If the character is evil, the DM cannot ever say, "Oh, you wouldn't do that". Not that I would, but, I think a lot of players get trained in ways to very jealously guard their characters from DM interference. Might explain a bit why the players play characters with pretty much zero ties to the setting. The orphan character from far away that's a fish out of water. A perfectly fine archetype, the first few times, but, an entire group of this time after time after time gets a bit off putting to the DM. After all, why am I bothering with more than the bare minimum of a setting if the characters never actually use any of the setting? [/QUOTE]

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