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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8468488" data-attributes="member: 22779">I have to admit, I find DM side arguments that something &quot;makes sense in the setting&quot; often isn't really a solid argument.&nbsp; There are all sorts of things that make sense in the setting, usually, and choosing the one where you are setting up PVP in a game is generally a bad idea.&nbsp; Not necessarily - depends on the group, but, generally.It's a pretty fine line really.&nbsp; I remember years ago, a PC dropped a Fear spell in a crowded market, causing a riot and several deaths.&nbsp; I had repeatedly warned the player that this was a REALLY bad idea, even going so far as to directly tell him what would happen if he dropped this spell.&nbsp; He either didn't understand or didn't care and dropped the spell, causing exactly what I said would happen, a riot resulting in several deaths, to occur.The PC was apprehended by the constabulary and taken for trial.&nbsp; Throughout, the player insisted that he didn't do anything wrong - he just wanted to break up the crowd.&nbsp; We were sharing DM duties among a few of us in the group and the group of DM's conferred and decided that yup, executing the PC was perfectly reasonable.Thinking back on it now, I'm not really sure what I could have done differently, but, wow, talk about a scenario going way out of control.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8468488, member: 22779"] I have to admit, I find DM side arguments that something "makes sense in the setting" often isn't really a solid argument. There are all sorts of things that make sense in the setting, usually, and choosing the one where you are setting up PVP in a game is generally a bad idea. Not necessarily - depends on the group, but, generally. It's a pretty fine line really. I remember years ago, a PC dropped a Fear spell in a crowded market, causing a riot and several deaths. I had repeatedly warned the player that this was a REALLY bad idea, even going so far as to directly tell him what would happen if he dropped this spell. He either didn't understand or didn't care and dropped the spell, causing exactly what I said would happen, a riot resulting in several deaths, to occur. The PC was apprehended by the constabulary and taken for trial. Throughout, the player insisted that he didn't do anything wrong - he just wanted to break up the crowd. We were sharing DM duties among a few of us in the group and the group of DM's conferred and decided that yup, executing the PC was perfectly reasonable. Thinking back on it now, I'm not really sure what I could have done differently, but, wow, talk about a scenario going way out of control. [/QUOTE]

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