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<blockquote data-quote="TYPO5478" data-source="post: 3478216" data-attributes="member: 37531">How do you use the character wealth rules (found on page 135 of the DMG)?&nbsp; Guidelines?&nbsp; Hard and fast rules?&nbsp; Do you pay any attention to them at all?I ask because recently my DM has started paying more attention to them (again, evilbob, not griping, just curious <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />).&nbsp; But his focus has made me really start thinking about those rules in particular.&nbsp; Evilbob mentioned to me that my character was a little bit ahead of the curve.&nbsp; He didn't really say how much, and he did admit that he estimated parts of my character's net worth, so I'm guessing he's in more of the &quot;guidelines&quot; category (or that he's made adjustments to the curve that I don't know about).But that got me thinking: exactly what should go into that type of calculation and how precise should it be?&nbsp; My personal example: I'm playing a wizard at the moment.&nbsp; Obviously, one of the advantages of being a wizard is the spell variety you can get by copying scrolls into your spellbook.&nbsp; I've done quite a bit of that, to the point that I had filled up all 100 pages of my starting spellbook by 7th level (20 lvl-0 spells, 15 lvl-1, 11 lvl-2, 9 lvl-3, and 4 lvl-4).&nbsp; Now, the DMG says that a 7th level character should have about 19,000 gp in character wealth.&nbsp; Should the gp value of a spellbook be counted toward that total for wizards?&nbsp; In my case, my spellbook would be worth 10,000 gp... more than half of my total.&nbsp; Does that sound right?There's also the fact that a wizard's wealth can fluctuate from the time he purchases a scroll to the time he copies it into his spellbook, thus:[CODE]Spell Level&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Scroll Cost&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Page(s) Cost-----------&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -----------&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 25 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 100 gp2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 150 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 200 gp3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 375 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 300 gp4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 700 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 400 gp5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1,125 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 500 gp6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1,650 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 600 gp7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2,275 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 700 gp8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3,000 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 800 gp9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3,825 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 900 gp[/CODE]Copying a level 1 scroll into a spellbook yields a net increase in the character's wealth of 75 gp; copying a level 5 scroll renders a net decrease of 625 gp.&nbsp; Conversely, scribing a scroll (level 3 or higher) from a spellbook can increase character wealth even though the caster is paying to do it.&nbsp; Again, does this seem right?Another thing my wizard does is craft magical items.&nbsp; In this case, the price is reduced by spending time and XP instead of gold.&nbsp; When calculating character wealth, should you count crafted items at their market price or at their crafted price?&nbsp; If you'd count it at the crafted price, would you do that only for items the crafter made for himself, or for items he made for anyone in the party?Now for the combo deal: Boccob's Blessed Book allows spells to be written into it without paying the usual 100 gp per page cost.&nbsp; In terms of calculating character wealth, should the pages in a Blessed Book still count at 100 gp per page even though that money wasn't actually spent (after all, they do still have value).&nbsp; If so, should the pages be the only determining factor, or should you include the market (or crafted) price as well?Feel free to answer generally or specifically.&nbsp; Thanks!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TYPO5478, post: 3478216, member: 37531"] How do you use the character wealth rules (found on page 135 of the DMG)? Guidelines? Hard and fast rules? Do you pay any attention to them at all? I ask because recently my DM has started paying more attention to them (again, evilbob, not griping, just curious :)). But his focus has made me really start thinking about those rules in particular. Evilbob mentioned to me that my character was a little bit ahead of the curve. He didn't really say how much, and he did admit that he estimated parts of my character's net worth, so I'm guessing he's in more of the "guidelines" category (or that he's made adjustments to the curve that I don't know about). But that got me thinking: exactly what [B]should[/B] go into that type of calculation and how precise should it be? My personal example: I'm playing a wizard at the moment. Obviously, one of the advantages of being a wizard is the spell variety you can get by copying scrolls into your spellbook. I've done quite a bit of that, to the point that I had filled up all 100 pages of my starting spellbook by 7th level (20 lvl-0 spells, 15 lvl-1, 11 lvl-2, 9 lvl-3, and 4 lvl-4). Now, the DMG says that a 7th level character should have about 19,000 gp in character wealth. Should the gp value of a spellbook be counted toward that total for wizards? In my case, my spellbook would be worth 10,000 gp... more than half of my total. Does that sound right? There's also the fact that a wizard's wealth can fluctuate from the time he purchases a scroll to the time he copies it into his spellbook, thus: [CODE]Spell Level Scroll Cost Page(s) Cost ----------- ----------- ------------ 1 25 gp 100 gp 2 150 gp 200 gp 3 375 gp 300 gp 4 700 gp 400 gp 5 1,125 gp 500 gp 6 1,650 gp 600 gp 7 2,275 gp 700 gp 8 3,000 gp 800 gp 9 3,825 gp 900 gp[/CODE]Copying a level 1 scroll into a spellbook yields a net increase in the character's wealth of 75 gp; copying a level 5 scroll renders a net [B]decrease[/B] of 625 gp. Conversely, scribing a scroll (level 3 or higher) from a spellbook can increase character wealth even though the caster is paying to do it. Again, does this seem right? Another thing my wizard does is craft magical items. In this case, the price is reduced by spending time and XP instead of gold. When calculating character wealth, should you count crafted items at their market price or at their crafted price? If you'd count it at the crafted price, would you do that only for items the crafter made for himself, or for items he made for anyone in the party? Now for the combo deal: Boccob's Blessed Book allows spells to be written into it without paying the usual 100 gp per page cost. In terms of calculating character wealth, should the pages in a Blessed Book still count at 100 gp per page even though that money wasn't actually spent (after all, they do still have value). If so, should the pages be the only determining factor, or should you include the market (or crafted) price as well? Feel free to answer generally or specifically. Thanks! [/QUOTE]

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