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<blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 6934455" data-attributes="member: 12377">The goal of everyone at the table should be: to entertain everyone else at the table. When all players (including DM) act selflessly in this respect, the game really sings; you have a whole table full of people trying to entertain you, instead of just keeping yourself happy.Sometimes ineptitude is hilarious; but sometimes it's just frustrating. One_Shots clearly has fun &quot;winning&quot; and doesn't have much patience for ineptitude; bear that in mind if you game with him or her. But, One_Shots, listen: other people DO enjoy gaming with characters that are more interesting than effective. How is your hard-line insistence on optimization entertaining to them? Instead of getting indignant and considering those people &quot;rude,&quot; maybe talk to them about game mechanics, and making sure that they know how to pull their weight during a combat encounter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="77IM, post: 6934455, member: 12377"] The goal of everyone at the table should be: to [B]entertain everyone else at the table[/B]. When all players (including DM) act selflessly in this respect, the game really sings; you have a whole table full of people trying to entertain you, instead of just keeping yourself happy. Sometimes ineptitude is hilarious; but sometimes it's just frustrating. One_Shots clearly has fun "winning" and doesn't have much patience for ineptitude; bear that in mind if you game with him or her. But, One_Shots, listen: other people DO enjoy gaming with characters that are more interesting than effective. How is your hard-line insistence on optimization entertaining to [I]them[/I]? Instead of getting indignant and considering those people "rude," maybe talk to them about game mechanics, and making sure that they know how to pull their weight during a combat encounter. [/QUOTE]

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