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<blockquote data-quote="shoak1" data-source="post: 6937887" data-attributes="member: 54380">Translated into miniatures-combat-oriented-playstyle-language: &quot;Great story - we wiped cuz Mikes character sucks - thanks Mike for contributing massively to that story!&quot;Translated: &quot;No guys - I know it would be cool to fight that dragon, but we can't cuz Mikes character sucks!&quot;Translated: &quot;Hey guys - Mikes fighter goes down in combat like a glass pea-shooter, so we're gonna have to buy 20 healing pots instead of that cool new weapon for Al's GWM PM killing machine!&nbsp; Now I know you guys are p___ed, but consider how the theme of Mike sucking really contributes to the story..&quot;&nbsp; Yes, if you use encounter guidelines as they are D and D is super easy and you can beat the game w/1 or more suck PCs, true.&nbsp; But my players would yawn at that.&nbsp; They like to be challenged, and I dial up the difficulty.In the end, the answer to the OP question is just &quot;it depends on your playstyle&quot;.&nbsp; If you are more role-play oriented, factors like what his aunt did to him at age 12 might be more relevant to &quot;who he is&quot; that his 8 STR.&nbsp; But not at my table <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; At my table the conversation is more about &quot;dude, you got sentinal last level right?&quot; than about &quot;my character is going thru a personal crisis due to blah blah blah or something [insert your own actual role-playing dialog here]&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shoak1, post: 6937887, member: 54380"] Translated into miniatures-combat-oriented-playstyle-language: "Great story - we wiped cuz Mikes character sucks - thanks Mike for contributing massively to that [I]story[/I]!" Translated: "No guys - I know it would be cool to fight that dragon, but we can't cuz Mikes character sucks!" Translated: "Hey guys - Mikes fighter goes down in combat like a glass pea-shooter, so we're gonna have to buy 20 healing pots instead of that cool new weapon for Al's GWM PM killing machine! Now I know you guys are p___ed, but consider how the theme of Mike sucking really contributes to the[I] story[/I].." Yes, if you use encounter guidelines as they are D and D is super easy and you can beat the game w/1 or more suck PCs, true. But my players would yawn at that. They like to be challenged, and I dial up the difficulty. In the end, the answer to the OP question is just "it depends on your playstyle". If you are more role-play oriented, factors like what his aunt did to him at age 12 might be more relevant to "who he is" that his 8 STR. But not at my table :) At my table the conversation is more about "dude, you got sentinal last level right?" than about "my character is going thru a personal crisis due to blah blah blah or something [insert your own actual role-playing dialog here]" [/QUOTE]

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