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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 6938707" data-attributes="member: 6775477">Yea, the way the poster put it, it was basically: if you don't min/max you're a bad player and I don't want to play with you, and I'll justify it by saying my character considers you too ineffective to pull his own weight. I felt that a bit extreme, but I've known players IRL who feel that way too.Overshadowing people who don't min/max usually don't bother them much IME. They play to have fun, and unless your actions directly step on that fun they just don't care. 5E helps a lot with this, with Sub-classes and other ways to specialize in certain things, so you generally won't completely step all over someone unless you do it deliberately.</blockquote>