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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6939164" data-attributes="member: 6787650">(rubs eyebrow) I love Combat As War, but I can't help feeling somehow as if you are overstating the case. I think it's because my decision to exclude CAW from an answer to pemerton's question about floors on combat doesn't prove anything either way about CAW techniques. It doesn't prove that they would work, and it doesn't prove that they wouldn't. It just leaves them out of the question because CAW is really difficult to generalize about in a cross-table way: every DM runs CAW differently.So, no. I don't think you've proven that at all.Edit: also, it hasn't been proven that there's a link between combat floors and &quot;mechanically sub-optimal characters [not being] a problem.&quot; Really that's a normative question for a specific table; it doesn't really have anything to do with pemerton's question that I was answering, which was strictly a tactical question. On reflection, that's the primary reason your question makes me uncomfortable. Tactics aren't norms. For some people, if their fellow PCs &quot;can't beat 51% of Easy encounters&quot; it might not even bother them. For other people, if even a single fellow PC fights like a buffoon it might ruin the sense of camaraderie and awesomeness that they expect from their game. You cannot use tactical analysis to predict what will cause problems with fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6939164, member: 6787650"] (rubs eyebrow) I love Combat As War, but I can't help feeling somehow as if you are overstating the case. I think it's because my decision to exclude CAW from an answer to pemerton's question about floors on combat doesn't prove anything either way about CAW techniques. It doesn't prove that they would work, and it doesn't prove that they wouldn't. It just leaves them out of the question because CAW is really difficult to generalize about in a cross-table way: every DM runs CAW differently. So, no. I don't think you've proven that at all. [B]Edit:[/B] also, it hasn't been proven that there's a link between combat floors and "mechanically sub-optimal characters [not being] a problem." Really that's a normative question for a specific table; it doesn't really have anything to do with pemerton's question that I was answering, which was strictly a tactical question. On reflection, that's the primary reason your question makes me uncomfortable. Tactics aren't norms. For some people, if their fellow PCs "can't beat 51% of Easy encounters" it might not even bother them. For other people, if even a single fellow PC fights like a buffoon it might ruin the sense of camaraderie and awesomeness that they expect from their game. [B]You [I]cannot[/I] use tactical analysis to predict what will cause problems with fun.[/B] [/QUOTE]

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