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<blockquote data-quote="shoak1" data-source="post: 6940398" data-attributes="member: 54380">Look at 3.5 adventures where every battle encounter was named (E1, E2, etc) and included as a 1-3 page insert and painstakingly drawn out on a grid and every object that could be interacted w/had stats about how it affected combat - and where the miniatures were shown in their starting positions....&nbsp; Look at the original d and d brown books and 1e books and see how everything was expressed as inches because it was a miniatures/rpg hybrid game . And yes, the power gaming version was just 1 edition among 7, but it existed for 10% of D and D's history - and plenty of people (although not a majority) liked it, or at least liked elements of it.These editions existed and created devoted fans that still play the game today.&nbsp; It seems like w/the current 5e rpg victory, that all of this D and D history is being rewritten by the victors - and I don't mean necessarily deliberately by suppression, but rather inadvertently through exclusion and dismissal.&nbsp; I think that just like tolerance and diversity is the catch-word in today's society at large, that many of you guys should perhaps take that to heart and start being a little more aware of the value of keeping these diverse play styles together (i.e multi-cultural) rather than keeping such a narrow focus (i.e.cultural centricism) when talking about OUR game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shoak1, post: 6940398, member: 54380"] Look at 3.5 adventures where every battle encounter was named (E1, E2, etc) and included as a 1-3 page insert and painstakingly drawn out on a grid and every object that could be interacted w/had stats about how it affected combat - and where the miniatures were shown in their starting positions.... Look at the original d and d brown books and 1e books and see how everything was expressed as inches because it was a miniatures/rpg hybrid game . And yes, the power gaming version was just 1 edition among 7, but it existed for 10% of D and D's history - and plenty of people (although not a majority) liked it, or at least liked elements of it. [U]These editions existed and created devoted fans that still play the game today.[/U] It seems like w/the current 5e rpg victory, that all of this D and D history is being rewritten by the victors - and I don't mean necessarily deliberately by suppression, but rather inadvertently through exclusion and dismissal. I think that just like tolerance and diversity is the catch-word in today's society at large, that many of you guys should perhaps take that to heart and start being a little more aware of the value of keeping these diverse play styles together (i.e multi-cultural) rather than keeping such a narrow focus (i.e.cultural centricism) when talking about OUR game. [/QUOTE]

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