Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Characters have huge ACs and low attack bonuses
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Fedifensor" data-source="post: 3279201" data-attributes="member: 7289"><p>Though I wouldn't use them all the time, groups of Psionic Warriors or Warblades can ignore a good portion of their AC thanks to touch attacks. A 12th level Psionic Warrior (or PW 6/War Mind 6) with Deep Impact and Psionic Meditation should be able to hit them a good portion of the time, and that's a CR 5 below their level (which means you can use several at once against the PCs). Likewise, Warblades (from Bo9S) can get Emerald Razor (touch attack to hit) as a relatively early maneuver.</p><p></p><p>At 17th level, the characters should expect intelligent foes with the right resources to unleash <em>greater dispel magic</em> against them, which should take care of <em>barkskin</em>. It also sounds like they may be a bit overloaded with magical gear that increases AC...while it's a last resort, stealing or destroying some of those items could bring things back in line. Maybe give them something in exchange for the loss of items that helps their attack bonuses.</p><p></p><p>However, it also sounds like they're just using the resources available to them. One of the perks of being a Druid is having access to the <em>barkskin</em>spell. Paladins don't get many feats and have multiple-ability dependency, so I can see only having a +26 at 17th level quite easily. As it's generally better to be a specialist in D&D, I can see why they would focus on a high AC at the cost of increasing their attack bonuses. Try not to penalize them for that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fedifensor, post: 3279201, member: 7289"] Though I wouldn't use them all the time, groups of Psionic Warriors or Warblades can ignore a good portion of their AC thanks to touch attacks. A 12th level Psionic Warrior (or PW 6/War Mind 6) with Deep Impact and Psionic Meditation should be able to hit them a good portion of the time, and that's a CR 5 below their level (which means you can use several at once against the PCs). Likewise, Warblades (from Bo9S) can get Emerald Razor (touch attack to hit) as a relatively early maneuver. At 17th level, the characters should expect intelligent foes with the right resources to unleash [I]greater dispel magic[/I] against them, which should take care of [I]barkskin[/I]. It also sounds like they may be a bit overloaded with magical gear that increases AC...while it's a last resort, stealing or destroying some of those items could bring things back in line. Maybe give them something in exchange for the loss of items that helps their attack bonuses. However, it also sounds like they're just using the resources available to them. One of the perks of being a Druid is having access to the [I]barkskin[/I]spell. Paladins don't get many feats and have multiple-ability dependency, so I can see only having a +26 at 17th level quite easily. As it's generally better to be a specialist in D&D, I can see why they would focus on a high AC at the cost of increasing their attack bonuses. Try not to penalize them for that. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Characters have huge ACs and low attack bonuses
Top