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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kkoie" data-source="post: 765588" data-attributes="member: 1160">Well I for one do not agree with all the wimpsters and whiners who have responded to you.  I think you are reacting exactly as you should to the given situation.I too have/had players who would constantly use charisma as their dump stat.Although I admit, it really didn't effect how much they spent on major purchases, it did have a huge impact on how much they spent, if they decided to do any barganing what-so-ever.  And I usually choose prices that reflect a haggling society.  It also had a huge impact on when they were trying to hit people up for information.  IF they had a negative charisma, it would take more cash to grease the 'gather information' machine than it normally would.I think what you are doing is quite understandable.  When a character with an 8 charisma is in a social situation, it is going to be more difficult for him.  The fact that he's a combat machine with an 8 charisma means he has the attitude and demeanor of a big dumb ox.  He may have a great wisdom, and he may even be intelligent enough to take levels in wizard.  But the fact remains is his charisma is below average.  So while he does not reflect someone who would be a social cancer, he does reflect the steriotypical 'big dump jock.'If he doesn't like being treated like a sucker, then the player should have his character invest in increasing his charisma.  I don't understand why some of the other posters think you are penalizing the guy, you are simply having people react to what is in front of them!I'm sorry, but if I was the shop keeper in that situation, one of a few things would happen.1. I'd roll my eyes and think 'great, not another "adventurer."2. Depending on how threatening he looks, my apprentice would be standing in the back, ready to take the rear exit incase he needs to yell for the city watch (specially if my shop is in an area where I should be 'worried about his big nasty sword').3. I'd take him for every gold coin he has got! Why?  Why not?!  With a charisma like that, it is going to be obvious that he's not very adept socially (you tend to notice things like that when you deal with people long enough).  And as far as threat of physical harm?  Its not like the shopkeepers are totally unfair?  They are just not being flexable as they normally would.  And if he threatens to whack the shop owner with the sword?!  Good luck fella, thats why towns have citywatch, cityguards, and soldiers from the neighboring fort.  Can we say fugitive? Also, if the player really hates how he's getting 'ripped off' then why is he still doing the buying?!  He would not be the first in history (fictional or otherwise) who had someone else do the purchasing for them, if that someone was better at haggling with the shopkeepers!  An obvious solution would be for him to ask another character to transact the major purchase for him, so long as said combat machine is still supplying the money.  All his friend has to do is the talking.</blockquote>

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