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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cptg1481" data-source="post: 766199" data-attributes="member: 5360">My Two Coppers...An 8 charisma is not all that low....I mean it is the average charisma of commoners, experts, warriors and other non-elite type NPC's.  While I also dislike the combat machine mentality, it seems unfair to me that the shop keepers would give this guy a hard time just because he' s  20% less charismatic than the rest of the adventurers.  Do the merchants give the commoners and other normal persons a hard time for their lack of charaisma?  If so then fine, that's the way your world works.  However, I'd say this guys got a thing or two going for him that the commoners with similar CHA stats don't - he's got gold and probably lots of it.  I think that they'd likely give him beter treatment than those commoners with an 8 CHA because they'd want him back for repeat business.  It appears to me that you are simply and perhaps arbitrarilly punishing this character for concentrating on fighting skills instead of social ones.  LIke I said B4, an 8  is not all that low, he's well within the boundries of charisma for the normal non-adventuring folk.  He shouldn't be treated that bad.  If anything he'd get some preferential treatment over the commoners for the fact he has gold.  Just my two coppers, play your game as you see fit and have fun.</blockquote>